First off, I think you can to totally without the spin component if you regard the planes as spin-indicators. I find this natural, as you can simply the analysis of a moves by focusing on either spinning of the player OR (sideways) movement of the bag. All moves can be done with a straight set, but ...

Dear FlexThis, I think you are definately on to something -- and I think that because I have thought many of the same things (half dexes amongst others) and I think I was on to something. Unfortunately, nobody really listened, and I don't blame them since my notation is ... heavy. I think the "farne...

True. The '>>' mark was blatenty ignored above. And I do see the point in having the ADD-system to cling to, on the other hand I see at as unneccesary. Footbag is the only trick-oriented sport I know that has such a measurement system, and the others manage anyways. It should be obvious to even rook...

@ Dyalander: I agree, at least to some extent. Wrt competitions, I see no reason why should not be based on "Objective Difficulity", but this again is assuming that such a concept can be made. I'm not sure it can, but at least we can try to describe moves... What moves then are Better is a question ...

I think you've made some really nice categories Ianek, I just wanted to start out with that. 1) I have a couple of questions, though. Above you mention a reason why higher sets are more difficult is, that it requires are bigger Momentum Stop than with a lower set. If this is the way you use Momentum...

It's not that I don't think it would be nice to have such a visualizer program, but I must admit, that is not why I have made this notation. And, basicly, if you understand the language, you don't need videos to show you the meaning of the expressions. You ought to be able to visualize whatever you ...

How is publicity to footbag via GOD any worse that ublicity to footbag trough COCA-COLA, or any other corporate sponsored campaign? [I'm against both capitalist economics and religion (in most cases that is)]. I'd join your army of religious extremists in the name of footbag any day. But if it's in ...

I've made a new, more detatiled version of Job's original notation. Basicly, it features a more detailed view of dexes and spinning components making it possible to capture things such as Paradox and the possibility of expressing things like Gyro Jughandle. It has nothing to do with Hardness -- it s...

'The Kiss' to a Downtime Pdx Miraging Inspinning Pdx Torque.

Knee-set Around the World Knee.

Okay, here goes: Toe-set same = Double Over Down (DOD) = Toe > Same Out > Same Out > Op Clip Toe-set Opp. = Paradon = Toe > Op Out > Same Out > Op Clip Clipper-set Far = Barfly = Clip > Same Out > Same Out > Op Clip Clipper-set Near = Down Double Down (DDD) = Clip > Op Out > Same Out > Op Clip A Sco...

Well, get really good Clippers, where you can set High and Straight, learn Osis, learn to combine it, both sides of course, and then use it a lot.
Then spin later, a Good foundations makes it stay.

Rough call, but fair.

Alright - to me it sounds like a 37, but that's just me... If you set from left toe first - which you havn't mentioned - it sounds like a Double Switch-Over Outside > Outside-set Pixie Rake. But is it a Rake, or a XBD Rake? If it's really a Rake, you get maybe... Plus 5. But that's just me, you guys...

when... You accept childlabour because they DO produce nice, small, tight and cheap bags.

We also have the danish forum, with an english under-forum (to replace the guestbook - eventualy!) - the link is:

http://www.footbagdenmark.dk/forum

Yves Kreil named it 84 [edit: "Eighty Four", apparently..] due to the 84-"team" (not sure what to call it :roll: ) he is part of. He could have named it Kreilwalk, would that have been more soothing? And do you, due to the name, constantly confuse Pixie Fairy Butterfly with Reverse Swirling Paradox ...

It'd be really sweet if you could do the first "dex" horisontaly, circling your own foot... Uh nam nam!
But nice all over!

Yeah, if we ought to redo the notation, we should make less simple, simply because Job's notation and the ADD-system are hopelessly over-simplified.

If you can't learn Job's from .org, you simply, as we say, have to bite the sour apple and seek help!

Org. Posted by EriksonNJ: You think red wetter is nasty? It was named by red husted and is a shooting eggbeater - blurry eggbeater is bed wetter - hence red wetter. I don't find that offensive or gross at all. Confused When ever I hear the name Red Wetter I think of some poor girl in her bed covered...

I know of noone else who can do this, and I've seen it only once, but on one occation Kasper from our club hit Knee-bump set Atomic Flying Butterfly.
I havn't read any of the above posts, but maybe it worth taking into account that that is possible...?