is a Sole Del. > Butterfly a 4 Add?

Matt K · Post by **Matt K** » 22 Feb 2006 17:20

UNUSUAL SURFACE [uns]

You get this Add when you use any surface of the body besides the toes, insteps, outsteps and knees.

so does that mean that a sole del. is an add in itself? (and does my hand holding my foot negate that?) If so, it makes for quite an easy 4 add

Laroche · Post by **Laroche** » 22 Feb 2006 17:33

Where do you get four adds out of Unusual Delay?

Matt K · Post by **Matt K** » 22 Feb 2006 17:36

umm...the unusual delay to the butterfly? (which i believe is a 3 add)

Iron Clad Ben · Post by **Iron Clad Ben** » 22 Feb 2006 17:36

If you land a buttefly in a xbd sole delay instead of an xbd inside (clipper), that would be 4-adds.

Combos such as sole > butterfly are two seperate moves, with seperate add counts. It's a 2>3, but if the sole is xbd, then it's a 3>3.

Matt K · Post by **Matt K** » 22 Feb 2006 17:39

rats, i thought i had an easy as hell 4. oh well, it's still a fun move.

Kyle Hewitt · Post by **Kyle Hewitt** » 22 Feb 2006 19:51

Symp Butterfly is a cool 4 add

james_dean · Post by **james_dean** » 22 Feb 2006 22:13

Butterfly doesn't get the symp add, just like pogo doesn't. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Samurai · Post by **Samurai** » 22 Feb 2006 22:25

soul > butterfly is a 4 add but you dont get any adds for the soul

max · Post by **max** » 23 Feb 2006 00:33

I've meaning to ask a sole related question this for a while, and it's not completly off topic here so here goes:

When you do a sole delay it's usually "behind your back", so depending on which butterfly you do I'd venture to say that it couldbe a 4 add.

Let's say you do a sole delay with your right foot. The bag is usually behind you to your right. If you set and do a butterfly on your right (delaying with left foot clipper stall) then it's just a butterfly.

But if you set and the bg travels behind your back to your left and you then do the butterfly on your left (delaying with right foot clipper) I'd venture to say that that *COULD* be a gyro butterfly... (4 adds)

I'm thinking this is easy to "the" by setting the bag in a xbd sole position.

BalinorNZ · Post by **BalinorNZ** » 23 Feb 2006 02:37

That is an interesting point max

I wonder if anyone has tried spinning out of flapper before? If you could set stright from it then for sure it could be possible and ofcourse, would get a [BOD] add for the spin.

But soledelay > far butterfly and soledelay > near butterfly are both 2>3 combos, provided the bag passes in front of you and not behind.

There is no such thing as symp butterfly, but I believe (others don't) that there is such a thing as symp reverse whirl. If you do the oposite dex to whirl, the dex is full so it can be symp, butterfly dex is far from a full dex though.

footjoe · Post by **footjoe** » 23 Feb 2006 08:15

ive hit flapper spinning osis

ive seen videos of vasek trying like flapper whirlwind and shit like that