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Post by CICFreestyler17 » 09 Mar 2012 14:17

I just saw the video on this the other day and was wondering if others have as well?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5 ... re=related

I've heard that it is not entirely true. Does anyone know a lot on this subject?

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Post by Muffinman » 09 Mar 2012 14:27

I read an article that kind of debunked the legitimacy of the Invisible Children group: http://tumblr.thedailywh.at/post/189097 ... tay-as-far

I don't know too much, but agree with the sentiment of thoroughly researching before taking a stance; and on that note, I'm not really taking one, since I don't have time to read a lot outside of school. I tried to skim a few counter-arguments, but it's difficult to be trusting of internet sources.

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Post by Jeremy » 09 Mar 2012 15:43

Here are a bunch of articles on the video.

First there was this;

http://tumblr.thedailywh.at/post/189097 ... tay-as-far

This article mainly attacks the the charity that created the video. They gave a response;

http://www.invisiblechildren.com.s3-web ... iques.html

However what's interesting is that if you read through the first article, and their response, they don't respond to a number of the criticisms, and sometimes they appear to, but don't. This is especially noticeable in the financials; where they merely break their budget up differently, so that money spent flying their employees around etc. counts as money being spent on "Central Africa Programs." It's possible that their response is accurate, while the criticisms still true.


There has also been a number of responses from people in Uganda, the ones I've seen are mainly negative, but all worth a read;

http://projectdiaspora.org/2012/03/08/r ... ency-2012/
http://allafrica.com/stories/201203080907.html

As well as some news stories giving more Ugandan responses;
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... b6022d2e75
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -film.html

And this opinion piece by a South African political journalist, which is particularly strongly opposed;
http://allafrica.com/stories/201203080526.html

There is also this video, that is worth a watch;
[youtube]KLVY5jBnD-E[/youtube]

And there are some other responses here;
http://afripopmag.com/2012/03/african-r ... -campaign/

For the sake of as much balance as I can find, I did also see this;

http://allafrica.com/stories/201203090532.html
*However I note that this article mainly just presents the emotional argument - ie. things were bad, without addressing the concerns about the solution, or about the accuracy of the video.



My opinion, which is probably clear from what I've posted is, is that the Kony video will not achieve much, that it grossly simplifies a complex issue, and that the solutions it suggests are probably bad ideas. I'm less sure about whether they are a well intentioned charity, or trying to profit from this issue.

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Post by CICFreestyler17 » 16 Mar 2012 14:52

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/kony- ... 49394.html

This can not be good for the cause!

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Post by BainbridgeShred » 20 Mar 2012 16:04

I've been very critical of people latching on to Invisible Children's little movement from the moment I saw video, and when I originally heard that the filmmaker got arrested for being hammered in public beating off and breaking windows, I was actually pretty glad to be vindicated. But then I thought about it more and it occurred to me that possibly, just possibly this guy just couldn't take the pressure of having millions of people comment and be critical of his video (Which he probably put a lot of work into, despite it sucking) and maybe he just cracked. One beer maybe led to another 30 and hey, for a non-drinker that might put you on the streets of San Diego with your junk flapping in the wind breaking windows yelling about the devil.

If you want some legitimate internet activism, go sign this video and sign the petition below.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/0 ... 32756.html

http://www.change.org/petitions/prosecu ... von-martin
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Post by BainbridgeShred » 20 Mar 2012 16:08

It is good to see that the American youth can get up in arms about facism in a distant country, even if the extent of their involvement is buying a 30$ packet of stickers or buttons. It's something, right? :?
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Post by Jeremy » 20 Mar 2012 23:03

"Legitimate internet activism" sounds like an oxymoron to me. I'd like to see a single example of an internet petition actually being successful, where the success can actually be reasonably attributed to the petition.


On Kony;

It's become increasingly apparent that the organisation is an evangelical Christian group, and the majority of its money not spent on advertising and themselves is spent on building evangelical Christian schools.

In Uganda you have Kony; an evangelical Christian, legislation going to parliament to make homosexuality a capital crime, as well as brutal murders of homosexuals and a newspaper "outing" homosexuals and calling their for their murders, all in the name of Christianity, as well as the mass suicide and murder of nearly 800 people by the Christian "Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God."

In light of this, it's hard to see how a group trying to emotionally manipulate people into giving it money so it can indoctrinate children with evangelical Christianity can be seen as charity.

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Post by BainbridgeShred » 21 Mar 2012 10:19

"Legitimate internet activism" sounds like an oxymoron to me. I'd like to see a single example of an internet petition actually being successful, where the success can actually be reasonably attributed to the petition.
Actually internet activism (And other forms of activism) led to the FBI getting involved in the case, whereas originally it was a burglary detective the Florida PD send down not even a homicide detective. I realize you're still bitter about the veggie thread, but you realize it's a very unattractive quality to be as nit picky as you are hmm?
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