Footbag Stencil/Pattern tutorial.

Freebird · Post by **Freebird** » 22 Aug 2005 12:04

thx pete i apprectiate it i just needed to know how to resize it
and i just dont need firefox is y no any ohther way to rezise it

Freebird · Post by **Freebird** » 22 Aug 2005 12:09

pete thx to u i did it just had to use paint ur good with a comp

and toby thx sooooooo much i may have fiqered it out

Toby · Post by **Toby** » 22 Aug 2005 14:01

Actually, i've just checked, and you can scale it down to 25% in Internet Explorer. it's something like:
Print Preview>Page Setup>Properties>Advanced>Graphic>scaling.
Much easier in firefox.
I recomend you do this rather than resizing it in Paint, because you will lose quality.

Toby · Post by **Toby** » 23 Aug 2005 19:56

I've made a small change to the stencil tutorial, for those who may have been confused about the corners or "notches"

Freebird · Post by **Freebird** » 24 Aug 2005 12:24

thx toby i aprecitate it thx man

buddystarr · Post by **buddystarr** » 24 Aug 2005 16:08

toby did you sew the hexes together on this bag, or did you only attatch them to the pentagons?

Toby · Post by **Toby** » 24 Aug 2005 16:23

I stitched the hexes together at the corners. On the dimentions diagram you may have noticed that there are bigger dots on the corners of the hexagon. That is where you sew them together.

buddystarr · Post by **buddystarr** » 24 Aug 2005 19:32

in your diagram, the length f you say can be whatever... if it is much longer would the hexes then have to be stitched together? if so would it would seam like a lot more work... my freind wants me to make him a bag that is bigger in size... if i increased the size of my hexes i feel sure that i would have to stitch them also together,, what do you suggest?

BalinorNZ · Post by **BalinorNZ** » 25 Aug 2005 05:36

buddystarr wrote:in your diagram, the length f you say can be whatever... if it is much longer would the hexes then have to be stitched together? if so would it would seam like a lot more work... my freind wants me to make him a bag that is bigger in size... if i increased the size of my hexes i feel sure that i would have to stitch them also together,, what do you suggest?

If you want to stich a bigger bag then you will need to alter the patterns significantly I think. You definatly don't want to sew the bleed holes (where the hex's connect) so you will just have to make your hexagons smaller in proportion to your pents so you will have smaller (triangle like) hexagons and big pents, that way no filler can fall out between the hexagons.
This could be very hard to alter accurately :s.

Toby · Post by **Toby** » 25 Aug 2005 22:17

buddystarr wrote:in your diagram, the length f you say can be whatever... if it is much longer would the hexes then have to be stitched together? if so would it would seam like a lot more work... my freind wants me to make him a bag that is bigger in size... if i increased the size of my hexes i feel sure that i would have to stitch them also together,, what do you suggest?

You will probably have to stitch them together you if make f larger than 60% of c. However, if you stitch the hexes together, the amount of fill in the bag cannot be changed very easily.

Does your friend want a bag with more of a typical hexagon shape, or just a larger bag? If he/she just wants a bigger bag, try printing my pattern out at 30%.

buddystarr · Post by **buddystarr** » 26 Aug 2005 06:49

here's what i did.. i kept the original pents and lengthened the hexes only on the long sides. i think it came out nice and i didn't have to stitch the hexes together. a little goes a long way over 20 panels i guess

Toby · Post by **Toby** » 26 Aug 2005 21:28

buddystarr wrote:here's what i did.. i kept the original pents and lengthened the hexes only on the long sides. i think it came out nice and i didn't have to stitch the hexes together. a little goes a long way over 20 panels i guess

i'm amazed that this worked. It brings up a number of questions.

Did you make your own pattern?

were the sides of the pentagon and hexagon equal before you modded them?

Did you make the stitch spacings on the hexagons larger than on the pentagons?

How many stitches per side do you do?

Do you gather your seams?

What do you actually mean by "stitch the hexes together"? On the corners or across the whole side?

Why don't you just make your pattern bigger? There are like 30 things to take into consideration when changing the sides of the Pentagon or Hexagon.

BalinorNZ · Post by **BalinorNZ** » 27 Aug 2005 05:20

You forgot one tob...

"Have you started any of the 15 labs we have to have done by the end of this week?"

buddystarr · Post by **buddystarr** » 28 Aug 2005 07:31

yes i made my own stencil. the first stencil i used i took from footbag.org i enlarged the pattern, i stitched the hexes together on this first bag so there are no bleed holes or anything. i was somewhat displeased because it was larger than i expected. so for my second bag, i took the original stencil and shaved of the sides to make it a more triangular shaped hex, like the one in your stencil, and at the same time this shrunk the bag to a more desireable size. I also noticed that with the modified hexes i did not have to stitch hexes to hexes, which saved a lot of work.... So, i was showing off my new hand-stitched bags to some of my "hacky sack" freinds trying to promote "footbag" and my freind wanted one the same size as the original. So i wanted to use the same triangular style hexes but i needed a larger bag in the end.. to answer the earlier question i think the hexes i used for my second bag had equal or slightly smaller edges than the pents. i do about 8 stitches per side, and the seams gather a little, the one problem i have found a problem in with the bleed holes. sometimes and edge of a hexagon pops out of the bleed hole, i usually stuff it back in and keep playing, but i think if i stitch the hexes together at the corners on the next one i make, i might solve this problem also.... sooo i hope that answers your questions, but when i get back home, ill show a picture of the bleed hole problem..

Toby · Post by **Toby** » 28 Aug 2005 21:07

Yes, that answers all of my questions.

The way you are making them now works ok, you could probably reduce the size of the bleed holes and maybe avoid the problem you are having.

However, when you try to stitch the hexes at the corner, you are going to run into a bunch of problems, because the thread will be in the wrong place to sitch them.

To solve this, you need to have a set number of stitches per side, and it needs to be an even number. I think most stitchers make it 6(on the pentagon), some crazy people do 8, i think it's best to start with 4 though.

Lazytowner · Post by **Lazytowner** » 22 Dec 2005 15:32

you got a pic of the

inside of one of those beauties? juuuust curious

shredzilla · Post by **shredzilla** » 22 Dec 2005 18:11

Way to dig up this thread dude. This should be a big help for people learning the pattern.

Lazytowner · Post by **Lazytowner** » 22 Dec 2005 18:53

Ha, yeah I think it'd help me alot to see the inside of one of these bags..
"?without having to pay $25?" haha.

I think I have a pretty strong handle on my consistency in stitching..but what I got a question on is how do I get the panels completely wrinkle free? I'm doin' pretty good now I guess, but I still see a bit of disruption between panels. Heres a pic:

shredzilla · Post by **shredzilla** » 22 Dec 2005 20:47

Here's a pic of an iside of a bag, there's a better one in that thread somewhere of mosher's bag inside out, but this is decent

http://modified.ca/footbag/viewtopic.ph ... &start=560

Lazytowner · Post by **Lazytowner** » 22 Dec 2005 22:20

yeah I remember seeing something like that before I was interested in stitching hehe. I can't find it again though..blah..