Butterfly/Down

Uranos · Post by **Uranos** » 31 Jan 2005 00:56

Butterfly/Down
SET > OP OUT [DEX] > OP CLIP [XBD][DEL]
http://www.hackrifice.com/moves/3butt.wmv

hey guys, i can do butterflies with the ales technique (hop), but when it comes to downtime i cant hit them!

Any tips for this? I think this may help for phoenix and other moves, but if there are any tips then it would be greatly appreciated.

mc · Post by mc » 01 Feb 2005 10:08

put the bag on your toe, set straight up to about your belly button with a quick jerk up of the knee, put your set foot back down immediately as the bag is still rising, and stand still. wait for it to peak and start to fall, and THEN raise your other knee and point it out a little bit and hop over it for the butterfly.

... soooooo... in other words... practice downtime butterflies

not exactly the most in depth advice, but I hope that helps some.

Uranos · Post by **Uranos** » 01 Feb 2005 16:13

thanks heaps matt

i hit ducking butterfly from the advice!
next ill try phoenix

Thank you!

Just call me hagesy · Post by **Just call me hagesy** » 01 Feb 2005 19:38

ducking butterfly from clip set or toe set

Thats phat either way.

mc · Post by mc » 01 Feb 2005 19:59

props, alex, hahahaha, that's great! so quick... that makes me feel so good to know a tip helped someone. good work

Uranos · Post by **Uranos** » 01 Feb 2005 20:57

Lol yeh thanks it somehow really helped haha

Hagesy, it is toe set and i footed phoenix just before..all thanks to Matt!

Just call me hagesy · Post by **Just call me hagesy** » 02 Feb 2005 13:46

awesome.

Uranos · Post by **Uranos** » 03 Feb 2005 02:05

I hit it finally, all thanks to Matt Cross

thanks heaps man, even though it was only 1 short post it dramatically improved my downtime butters, if i lived near you i would buy ya a can of coke or something

c ya!

Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 23 Feb 2006 08:44

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: Something about Butterfly Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
Well here's the deal...I always thought of Butterfly as an easy trick, performed with as less jump as possible.
But recently, my flipside Butterfly has gotten SO bad, that I can't even do a normal Dimwalk (that happened about the same time that my strong/flip Clipper changed sides).

Now please tell me...do you find Butterfly to be very basic or do you (like me) agree that it deserves 3 Adds?
Just think how more difficult is to do a Stepping out of Butterfly or how Ducking/Spinning Butterflies are harder than Clippers.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
Butterfly will become stupid easy over time.

Some tricks will wind up being easier to set up from a butterfly.

Drill infinities and ss butt>inf rpt.
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i Agree that a butterfly should be a three add because i used to think they were the absolute BOMB but now they are getting easier but still adds some jazz to an otherwise begginers routine.
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just keep drilling, pay attention to why ur flip butterfly is ur flip.. it becomes really natural if u do the drills that Tom suggested
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Yeah, thanks for advice.
I guess nothing really beats the drilling.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
regarding setting from butterfly here's what I think:

stepping / nuke is easier from butter than clip.
furious and spinning and swilring is a lot easier from clipper.

ducking / diving feels the same.

I'm sure everyone has their own preferences though.
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andr00 · Post by **andr00** » 24 Apr 2006 16:57

ok heres me trying to do a butterfly:

I seem to not have the right rythm - my catching foot is always late. Any advice?

(click on that pic to watch the video.)

brinard · Post by **brinard** » 24 Apr 2006 17:47

make sure your setting correctly. i always set alittle towards the dexing leg, and dex faster... that way you have more setup time for your delay.

once you can set good, you wont miss it. its a really easy trick once you got it, but it takes some figuring out. dont get frustrated, and keep practicing.

zeroman13 · Post by **zeroman13** » 25 Apr 2006 07:18

andr00: By the looks from the vid, you need to 'give' a little more. What I mean is with your delaying foot, bring it down with the bag. Also bend your support leg with it. It looked, to me anyway, like you were just putting your foot out there to catch the bag. There's no need to rush the move, when the bag gets to its peak start the dex. That's how I learned butterfly.

andr00 · Post by **andr00** » 25 Apr 2006 10:01

great zero - thanks for the tips. i will keep those things in mind! thank you

zeroman13 · Post by **zeroman13** » 25 Apr 2006 11:01

glad to hear my tips are helping, when you start to get them down pretty good make another vid for we can see how much you have improved.

andr00 · Post by **andr00** » 29 Apr 2006 12:21

john I hit it several times (several meaning many times) but i am not quite dialed yet. The difference has been getting the control of my legs that I needed, now its just timing, which isnt nearly as frustrating to work on.

ill have a video up when i get mnore time! thanks for all the help!

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » 06 May 2006 04:23

Are uptime butterflys just atomic set> butterfly? Are the they the same thing?

Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 06 May 2006 14:37

Atomic same side (tapping) clipper is not butterfly.

CheeseMan · Post by **CheeseMan** » 17 May 2006 17:14

how high should my dexing leg be on the dex? should my knee form a right angle, or should it be more than 90 degrees?

Wumbo · Post by **Wumbo** » 06 Jul 2006 10:26

ok dudes.... butterfly is my favorite trick that i like to master! but im having problems! please give me some help..

http://fizzied.phasing.org/butterfly.wmv (10mb)

and here my clipper:

http://fizzied.phasing.org/clipper.wmv (2mb)

btw is it better so set the bag straight and play around the bag or let the bag go a curve to the other foot?

shreddaily · Post by **shreddaily** » 06 Jul 2006 17:45

your form is fine, and your clippers rule...just keep practicing and THINK more about the clipper than the dex. It looks like you are focusing on the dex and your clipper isn't "clipping"

Setting it straight or curved is fine. With clippers like yours you'll own that move in no time.
btw work butterfly set from toe as well!!!

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