Spin me like a Ceiling Fan

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 05 Mar 2009 05:55

brianbear wrote:hmmm, how are your rakes? I was thinking spinning rake-->(in)spinning osis-->gyro butterfly.

I like the rake to spinning idea, but as I mentioned earlier I need to practice my zooming on both sides more before I start taking hard zooming challenges.

C-Fan wrote: I guess I'm mostly looking for regular spinning challenges for now, and when they get better I'll work on zooming.

Erik: I like your spinning clipper challenge. I'll try it during my shreds, and I'll post my record in the 2nd post of this thread. I think I should be able to get to the 4 spins each side point, but we'll see. Good challenge for me to work on.

Lately I've mostly been working on basic spins (spin/gyro clipper, osis, mirage) combined with basic downtime components (whirl, dlo, drifter). Last session, for example, I hit merkon-drifter-gyro clipper rpt, and gyro clipper-gyro mirage-drifter rpt. These are the kinds of challenges I'm looking to practice.

EDIT: I'm stealing a couple challenges from Erik's thread.

*Spinning osis > gyro clipper > spinning clipper > gyro clipper [repeat]
*Toe spinning clipper > ducking clipper > ducking pdx mirage [repeat]

zeroman13 · Post by **zeroman13** » 05 Mar 2009 20:39

Here ya go Ken....

Gyro Mirage/DLO > Toe Whirl > Spin Clip, bs, bsos, rpt
Toe Merkon > Toe Ss Drifter > Gyro Mirage/DLO, bs, bsos, rpt
Spinning Ducking, clean,

Duck Clip > Spin Clip > Gyro Clip > Gyro Clip, bs, bsos, rpt

If some of the repeats seem way out there, don't bother. Bsos will work!

max · Post by **max** » 05 Mar 2009 23:56

C-Fan wrote:
max wrote:how about spinning clipper > merkon > spinning osis?
Way too easy. I'll add it to the challenges as a drill.

ok ok I'll spice it up a bit. How about the following:

spinning butter > gdlo > spinning osis > pdx torque ?

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 06 Mar 2009 06:55

Wow, that's a toughie. But hey, that's why they're "challenges," right?

Josh's sound fun and do-able. I'll add them to the list.

Weather looks good this weekend and I have Monday off, so I'm shooting for at least 2 sessions. I'll print out my challenges and see how many I can knock off. I'll play with Age at least one session, so maybe I can even get some on film.

Thanks everybody!

Matt K · Post by **Matt K** » 10 Mar 2009 11:20

(Osis>Gyro Clipper>Osis>Spinning Clipper rpt)>(Osis>Spinning Butterfly rpt)>(Osis>Gyro Mirage>Butterfly>Osis>Spinning Mirage>Butterfly rpt)>(Osis>Spinning Whirl rpt)

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 11 Mar 2009 09:26

C-Fan wrote:... as I mentioned earlier I need to practice my zooming on both sides more before I start taking hard zooming challenges.

C-Fan wrote: I guess I'm mostly looking for regular spinning challenges for now, and when they get better I'll work on zooming.

C-Fan wrote: *If you challenge me to a drill, keep it to 8 contacts or less. I think I'd have trouble remembering more than that. So, 4 contact combo rpt would be the limit.

My ideal challenges now would be stuff including spinning/gyro clippers/mirages/osis, mixed up with (pdx/toe) drifters/whirls/dlos, as well as ducks and dives. I'm also working on vortex and gdlo, so those could be good ones to throw in the mix. For the moment I'm staying away from torques and zooms.

Here's a video Age put together from my sessions last weekend. It includes some completed challenges.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGYLGSbIlkY&fmt=18[/youtube]

Matt K · Post by **Matt K** » 12 Mar 2009 07:38

Sorry Ken!

Heres 2 to make up for that one:

Pixie Muted Clipper>Spinning Whirl>PDX DLO rpt
Vortex>Spinning Osis>Inspinning Osis bs

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 12 Mar 2009 08:51

Ooh, I like those. Real good mix of my strong and flip components in all those links. I'll try em next session.

While I'm here: yesterday I knocked Spinning osis > gyro clipper > spinning clipper > gyro clipper [repeat] off my list.

acxel22 · Post by **acxel22** » 21 Mar 2009 14:19

spinning mirage - legbeater - rpt

spinning osis - gyro mirage - legbeater - rpt

pixie ss osis - gyro osis - merkon - rpt

Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 21 Mar 2009 21:41

Spinning ducking clipper > spinning ducking butterfly > spinning ducking osis [both sides]

and

Spinning clipper > spinning butterfly > spinning osis [repeat]

Sporatical_Distractions · Post by **Sporatical_Distractions** » 22 Mar 2009 18:38

-gyro legover>atomic muted clip>rpt
-merkon>opp symple swirl>rpt

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 23 Mar 2009 03:33

Thanks for the new challenges guys, I'll try them out at my next session. I played yesterday and didn't bring my challenge sheet, so I didn't try any.

I still need to practice my flip zooming before I take on some of the zooming challenges, but I'll give them a try too.

Sporatical_Distractions · Post by **Sporatical_Distractions** » 23 Mar 2009 13:46

Sorry that this isn't a spin challenge, but I was thinking about whirling swirls and variations the other day. Do you think you could do a whirling what (whirling true symposium swirling opp toe)?

Iron Clad Ben · Post by **Iron Clad Ben** » 23 Mar 2009 20:09

Spin x 5 > duck x 5 > RPT

Spinning muted clip > far xbd rake > pixie muted clip > RPT

Spinning muted clip x2 > diving clip > ducking clip rpt

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 27 Mar 2009 12:52

Had a session today which I dedicated 95% to challenges. I didn't bring a list with me though, and I totally couldn't remember Kevin's challenges. I'll try/get them next session.

With my new spinning style I'm really trying to move forward as both sided as possible. Because of this, I haven't been skooling spinning ducking or double spinning yet. When I bring them into my game I really want to bring them in both sides. I'm also not sure my basic spinning game is strong enough yet that I should be going for challenges which are past my skill level.

Here's the challenges I knocked off the list today:

*muted pixie clip-spin pdx whirl-pdlo rpt
*spinning butterfly-spinning clipper-spinning osis rpt
*spinning clipper-spinning butterfly-spinning osis rpt
*spin clip x5 to duck clip x5 repeat

That last one was surprisingly tough. I hit it early on but I grazed one of the duck clippers really badly, so I felt like I couldn't count it. It took me like another half hour to get it again.

The other challenge that drove me insane was the muted spinning clipper x2 -diving clip-duck clip rpt one. For those who think that sounds easy, go out and try it yourself. The best I managed was 6/8, though I also got:

*muted spin clip x2 to duck clipper rpt

And for the last time, I don't want zooming challenges yet!

Seriously though, I'm just not ready for them yet.

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 31 Mar 2009 11:25

Here's a list of challenges that I hit or re-hit in my last 2 sessions:

* Link 7 unique spinning tricks: spinning butter-spin clip-spin osis-spin clip-spin butter-spin osis-gyro clip -March 30, 2009
*GDLO-smoke, Strong- Mar 29, 09
* Spinning osis > gyro clipper > spinning clipper > gyro clipper [repeat] -March 30, 2009
*merkon>opp symple swirl [repeat]- March 29 and 30, 2009. Both sides

Here are two new challenges I am giving myself today:

*Dyno x10
*Ten unique spinning tricks linked together

Max: My flip pdx torque is weird, so I usually "the" the dex in an ugly way. I'll try and hit your spin butt-gdlo-spin osis pdx torque challenge on the other side, but really I'd just prefer to change the final move in that challenge to something else, like in-spinning osis. Any suggestions?

DTank126 · Post by **DTank126** » 01 Apr 2009 21:12

Ken wrote:

The other challenge that drove me insane was the muted spinning clipper x2 -diving clip-duck clip rpt one. For those who think that sounds easy, go out and try it yourself

Hit if first try.

(actually it was more like 10th try but I didn't think that would convey the cocky, in-your-face attitude I was striving for

)

I know you said you don't want zooming challenges (even though you seem like you've already got it down fairly well) but I figured I'd just post a drill I thought of today to work on zooming, far osis>spinning clip>far osis>gyro clip>rpt. But you've probably already thought of that. Hmm, just so this isnt a complete waste of space I'll think of a challenge...

-vortex>gyro clip>rpt (gyro butter if that's too easy)
-spin clip>spin butter>spin clip>spin duck clip bsos

Also, I remember you saying that you hit sonic near mirage in your recent video. I was just wondering, if that's sonic mirage, then what's peeking mirage? (Don't mean to be nit-picky but I was reading an old thread about peeking/osis/sonic and am still trying to understand the difference.)

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 02 Apr 2009 10:31

DTank126 wrote:(actually it was more like 10th try but I didn't think that would convey the cocky, in-your-face attitude I was striving for )

I was actually just watching vids of you on YouTube last night, and it struck me that your style is very close to the style I'm aspiring to develop. So getting challenges from you is exciting, as I hope they will help me towards that goal.

Zooming on one side is actually pretty good, but on the flip it's terrible. I really need to spend a session or two studying what I'm doing wrong, and just drill the hell out of it. Spinning ducking is another concept that I'm not quite ready for yet. It's non-existent on one side, and on the other I'm not satisfied with the cleanliness of my duck (it starts thin, and ends clean). I'll accept your vortex challenge, and for the spinning ducking one I'll just replace it with vortex/gdlo for now.

As for your question about Sonic, I made a thread where I try and explain Sonic. I'll add some vids to it tonight, and maybe in the future I'll try to make a video where I explain it.

While I'm here, I figure I'll give a quick update on some of my challenges:

*toe merkon-ss drifter-gyro mirage rpt, spin clip-merkon-spin osis rpt. Both of these have given me a really hard time. I've been able to hit both halves of each one, but linking it all up is tough. My flip toe spin isn't even that bad, but I'm struggling with these links. Really, who does flip toe merkon? Anyway, I'll probably tough it out, get lucky once, and then toss these into the pile of "hit it once to prove a point, but don't feel like skooling them anymore" challenges.

*gyro clipper x10. I got 14 one time, but I haven't hit double digits since then. Definitely something I need to keep skooling.

*muted spin clip x2, dive duck rpt. I suppose in theory practicing consecutive muted spinning clippers should help me with vortex/mob/gdlo. Damn if it isn't tough though.

*spinning mobius. I've been neglecting my double spins because I only really do them on one side, and I'd kind of like to get both sides DSC more consistent before I reach for spinning mobius. That said, I think I will start practicing strong Double Spinning more, in the hope that perfecting strongside will teach me flip. And if I have a day where strong double spinning is on point, I may try for this. I guess what I'm saying is: don't expect this any time soon.

*FTB drill I've almost completely lost interest in this challenge. I originally liked it because I viewed it as a way to avoid getting rusty with shuffle, but now I'm not interested in shuffle. I should really just drop it off my challenge list altogether, though part of me feels like I should just hit the damn thing (subbing blw for psw) just to get it off the plate.

*10 unique spins. More than anything, the point of this challenge is to get me to go for longer spinning combos. I'd rather hit five or six different combos of 8 unique spins, than get only one combo of 10 unique spins.

Iron Clad Ben · Post by **Iron Clad Ben** » 03 Apr 2009 20:15

Ken, personally I think you should still work on spinning-ducking even if it's tough for you. I think it forces you to get a really well positioned set from your spins. You HAVE to set the bag in the right spot (the right height AND lateral position), or the trick doesn't work. So a trick that forces you to get a really well positioned set out of a spin, will help your spins tremendously. I'm no expert at either, but playing around with spinning-ducking has improved my spinning A LOT. If it's non-existant on one side for you, WORK IT. Visualize how awesome it will be to have the concept both sides.

Challenge that you can hate me for now, but will love me for later:

Ducking Clipper > Spinning Ducking Clipper [RPT]

I find that playing out of the ducking clipper helps you get a good set for the spin. I hit this last week (witnessed clean by Cody AND sealed), and if I can do it, you certainly can do it. (By the way my spinning ducking has come a long way from the last time it was caught on tape, it's much cleaner now)

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 10 Apr 2009 06:47

Thanks for the input Ben. I'll consider it.

Three new self-imposed challenges:

1. Osis x60+. My record was like 54, but I set that like 4 years ago. Given the new style I'm working on, and the fact that I've dumped pdx mirage, I think it's time to set a new record. The real goal though is to be able to get 30+ easily, on a consistent basis, and to improve my form. I think this will also indirectly help my spinning, and should help my zooming too.

2. Find a routine song and start developing a routine by May. Imposing a deadline should help me. I still don't know what tournies I'm going to this year, but I'd be surprised if I didn't go to any. I'm thinking Funtastiks is guaranteed, and I'd like to go to Worlds. I really want to do one more dropless routine, and I'd love to get one at Worlds. It's already late to start developing a routine, but better now than later.