London Bombings

Kick back and relax. Anything that does not have to do with footbag goes here!
User avatar
Jeremy
"Really unneccesary"
Posts: 10178
Joined: 08 Jan 2003 00:20
Location: Tasmania

London Bombings

Post by Jeremy » 07 Jul 2005 02:39

Probably you've heard about this already. At least 6 bombs have exploded in London - reports of many dead.

User avatar
NotHisRealName
Post Master General
Posts: 2527
Joined: 26 Oct 2002 03:43
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Contact:

Post by NotHisRealName » 07 Jul 2005 03:20

I want to post something deep or inteligent here. This is a bad thing. Many people have died.
I don't know what more to say...

It's left me feeling sad.
Comment in the BCS blog if you feel the need to.

Gareth Williams

Jamo
Multidex Master
Posts: 275
Joined: 24 Sep 2004 12:59
Location: UK

Post by Jamo » 07 Jul 2005 03:32

Theres currently a rescue operation going on in the underground. We're getting like live coverage on most channels here. Will keep you updated.
7 Bombs so far, theyve got sniffer dogs searching around and the army are trondling about all over london.
Jamie Willison
My Footblog
<<One of the Only Hackers in the UK>>

User avatar
Iain
1337 h4x0r
Posts: 923
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 17:10
Location: pittsburgh

Post by Iain » 07 Jul 2005 04:17

"I was on the bus in front and heard an incredible bang, I turned round and half the double-decker bus was in the air"
Hello, my name is Iain George.

User avatar
Jeremy
"Really unneccesary"
Posts: 10178
Joined: 08 Jan 2003 00:20
Location: Tasmania

Post by Jeremy » 07 Jul 2005 04:18

http://www.eitb24.com/noticia_en.php?id=74118

Apparantly the British Police warned the Israli embassy minutes before the attacks that they may be a target.

This seems to suggest a high likely hood (as if there wasn't one already) that the attacks were perpetrated by Islamic terrorists.

I've been thinking about the consequences a lot. It's obviously just speculation but it's very hard to see what will happen from here. Will the British people want blood? Will the UK react like the US did when they were attacked? Or like Australia after the Bali Bombings? Or like Spain after Madrid? I see those as the three possibilities.

Either more agression in the Middle East or attempts to catch the people directly involved and seperate them from people with their ideology, or to pull out of the Middle East.

I really hope it's the second or third option. I can't see more aggression doing anything except leading to more violence and death. Obviously this is a very tragic event. My cousin is in London right now and I know nothing about their safty. However the UK are fighting a war - this is what happens in wars. Australia has been lucky that we haven't experienced anything like this on our soil yet but the people of Iraq and Afghanistan experience it all the time. Is there any difference between a bomb that goes off target or that is dropped because of faulty intelligence and a planned attack on civillians? In all practical sense the outcome is the same - except the US and the UK have only been attacked once - Iraq and Afghanistan are attacked all the time. You fight a war you have to expect to be attacked eventually.

I'm not saying that I support these kinds of actions - clearly I don't, but I think it was pretty inevitable and I think I've said that before. There will no doubt be more attacks like this on the soil of the "coalition of the willing" unless the war ends. The politicians of the UK, of Australia, of Poland, and of The US (to name some of the countries) surely would have known this when they went to war - but they decided that the war was worth dealing with such attacks.

This is why war is so horrible - because it's always the normal people who suffer - not the ones making the decisions but the ones haveing the decisions made for them.

At this stage I think the UK will continue to support the "war on terror" with more vigour and energy. They may go to war against Iran or Syria. This war is going to last a really long time. It's very hard to see an end in sight.

User avatar
NotHisRealName
Post Master General
Posts: 2527
Joined: 26 Oct 2002 03:43
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Contact:

Post by NotHisRealName » 07 Jul 2005 04:35

Well, the UK has been through this sort of thing before, with the IRA. Maybe not to the same extent, but terrorist attacks on brittish soil isn't a new thing.

My thoughts are with all those who are lost, and with all those who have lost.
Comment in the BCS blog if you feel the need to.

Gareth Williams

User avatar
Allan
Posts: 933
Joined: 30 Aug 2003 20:44
Location: Victoria BC

Post by Allan » 07 Jul 2005 08:48

Is everyone listed here: http://www.footbag.org/clubs/show/997822843 okay? Are there any Brits on the forums? Can those people give us an update so that we know you're all alright, please?

FlexThis
Post Master General
Posts: 3025
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 16:27
Location: San Diego, CA

Post by FlexThis » 07 Jul 2005 09:01

Image
Last edited by FlexThis on 13 Jul 2005 12:30, edited 1 time in total.
Go out and shred already.
~Damon Mathews

Badnfluenc
Shredaholic
Posts: 155
Joined: 23 May 2005 20:48
Contact:

Post by Badnfluenc » 07 Jul 2005 10:12

my little sister is in london right now on a school trip, and was supposed to be taking the train shortly after it happened. Luckily she wasnt on it, but she still may not make it home on time.
Jeff Overbo

Las Vegas Footbag
myspace.com/jeffoverbo

User avatar
Iain
1337 h4x0r
Posts: 923
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 17:10
Location: pittsburgh

Post by Iain » 07 Jul 2005 10:54

4 bombs - 3 on the underground, 1 on a bus

37 confirmed deaths, 700 confirmed injured

a handful of wrecked trains, 1 f'ed up bus
Hello, my name is Iain George.

Jamo
Multidex Master
Posts: 275
Joined: 24 Sep 2004 12:59
Location: UK

Post by Jamo » 07 Jul 2005 11:51

Dude, 7 bombs.

Edit Whoops, been in work, wasnt as up to date.
Last edited by Jamo on 07 Jul 2005 11:53, edited 1 time in total.
Jamie Willison
My Footblog
<<One of the Only Hackers in the UK>>

User avatar
Tsiangkun
Post Master General
Posts: 2855
Joined: 23 Feb 2003 02:27
Location: Oaktown
Contact:

Post by Tsiangkun » 07 Jul 2005 11:53

8 bombs was the last count I heard. Some were duds.

User avatar
peanutbuterboy
Fearless
Posts: 508
Joined: 12 Aug 2004 07:27
Location: Plano, Texas
Contact:

Post by peanutbuterboy » 07 Jul 2005 12:49

Where they aiming at hurting people or just shutting down mass transportation for awhile?
Luke Andrews
Image
Image

FlexThis
Post Master General
Posts: 3025
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 16:27
Location: San Diego, CA

Post by FlexThis » 07 Jul 2005 12:56

Image
Last edited by FlexThis on 13 Jul 2005 12:32, edited 1 time in total.
Go out and shred already.
~Damon Mathews

User avatar
Iain
1337 h4x0r
Posts: 923
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 17:10
Location: pittsburgh

Post by Iain » 07 Jul 2005 13:37

peanutbuterboy wrote:Where they aiming at hurting people or just shutting down mass transportation for awhile?
both. The bombs went off in the middle of the morning rush hour. What better way to hurt the most amount of people then via public trasportation. The crippling of the trasportation was an added bonus. Three million people use the underground a day.
Hello, my name is Iain George.

User avatar
slapdash21
Futureless
Posts: 4681
Joined: 29 Sep 2004 14:50
Location: Beantown, kidd

Post by slapdash21 » 07 Jul 2005 13:49

Iain wrote:
peanutbuterboy wrote:Where they aiming at hurting people or just shutting down mass transportation for awhile?
both. The bombs went off in the middle of the morning rush hour. What better way to hurt the most amount of people then via public trasportation. The crippling of the trasportation was an added bonus. Three million people use the underground a day.
basically yeah...its obvious that terrorists always seek to do as much damage as possible, in as many ways. both in hurting people and destroying representations of technology and progression.
could this really be just because of the olympics? i guess...im not going to make any claims until all the information is gathered, i guess. prayers going out for all involved.
Pete Bowler
B$C
keeps it offah da ground.

617 FOR LIFE

FlexThis
Post Master General
Posts: 3025
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 16:27
Location: San Diego, CA

Post by FlexThis » 07 Jul 2005 13:53

Image
Last edited by FlexThis on 13 Jul 2005 12:32, edited 1 time in total.
Go out and shred already.
~Damon Mathews

User avatar
blackcrown
Multidex Master
Posts: 316
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 13:09
Location: Santa Barbara, CA

Post by blackcrown » 07 Jul 2005 14:11

Okay, in order for it to be a responce to the Olympic thing they would have had to orginze this in less then 24 hours. I think it's more likly timed to coincide with the G8 summit in nearby Scotland.

Eric
Eric Palmer

FlexThis
Post Master General
Posts: 3025
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 16:27
Location: San Diego, CA

Post by FlexThis » 07 Jul 2005 14:22

Image
Last edited by FlexThis on 13 Jul 2005 12:33, edited 1 time in total.
Go out and shred already.
~Damon Mathews

User avatar
peanutbuterboy
Fearless
Posts: 508
Joined: 12 Aug 2004 07:27
Location: Plano, Texas
Contact:

Post by peanutbuterboy » 07 Jul 2005 15:44

But it could be taken as a warning for the Olympics....
Luke Andrews
Image
Image

Post Reply