terms: frontside + backside

Krafty · Post by **Krafty** » 17 Oct 2004 15:48

Hey guys,
Can someone explain to me how frontside and backside work? I always thought that frontside was when you symposium the first part of the trick, for example symp. pixie mirage would be a frontside smear, while backside was when you symposium the middle part of the trick, for example pixie symp. mirage would be backside smear. Is this right or is it something completely different? Thanks for the help!

Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 17 Oct 2004 16:15

You are right.
Some people choose to adapt the "Alpha, Beta, Gamma" system, though, where every letter represents a dexterity in the trick, rather than a single component. For example a triple dex move like pigbeater (pixie eggbeater) could be represented, when symposium, as Backside Pigbeater where the eggbeater is symposium; it could also be represented as Beta Symposium Pigbeater which is more specific and tells you that it is in fact the second dexterity that is symposium. The "Alpha, Beta, Gamma" system, to me, is only necessary for tricks where all three dexterities are clearly seperated (not many common moves are) such as pixie downtime ripwalk ("Yoda"?). It is unclear if you were to say "Backside Yoda" if it is the miraging or butterfly dexterity that is symposium.
A bad example but I think the point is pretty clear.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 17 Oct 2004 16:18

I think it's got something to do with if the tricks go infront of you or behind you - or spinning or something like that.

I just remember when I hit nearly 20 tripless a while ago and Lynton commented that all my moves were "frontside" and then said I should drill my spinning more.

I could be completely off the mark on that. - What Chan said is definitly right though.

Frenzal · Post by **Frenzal** » 17 Oct 2004 16:26

I think that through time the meaning of frontside and backside has become more and more undulant; witness it's use in the other extreme sports.

Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 17 Oct 2004 17:42

Yeah, frontside also refers to [shuffle with] no spinning or osii. I first heard Frontside used like that when somebody was describing Yacine's game. I've never heard backside used the same way, though.

ericksonj · Post by **ericksonj** » 17 Oct 2004 18:48

chan wrote:Yeah, frontside also refers to [shuffle with] no spinning or osii.

Whoa I didn't know frontside was used in that manner... I thought it was just to show which part was symposium.

Frenzal wrote:undulant

Frenzal · Post by **Frenzal** » 17 Oct 2004 20:25

Wavey, blurry, unclear... ok so it was a bit of a stretch.

Krafty · Post by **Krafty** » 18 Oct 2004 03:56

Ok, thanks for the help! It always used to mess me up because in skateboarding, frontside and backside are when you turn 180 degrees or more in a direction. Now, it's cleared up! BTW, nice word choice Frenzal!