Stepping-Ducking

Adam · Post by **Adam** » 09 Jan 2005 00:39

Stepping-Ducking
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How do you get your stepping set high enough for ducking? When I try to set high I tend to rush and not get my dexing leg over the bag. Or the bag comes up about waist level but I am off balance from putting too much effort into trying to get height out of my set.

Thanks in advance!

hacksterbator · Post by **hacksterbator** » 09 Jan 2005 01:47

the first thing you'll want to do is really really work on stepping clippers. they make you work for a clean set when you're going for height. work on getting your set out quickly. when catching your clipper, concentrate on bringing your clipper low and close to the ground, while doing the delay. this will give you the height you need when popping it back up. lean towards your clipper, set quick and strong, bring the knees up and open the hips to get the leg out of the way. that's all the advice i can think to give.

Sporatical_Distractions · Post by **Sporatical_Distractions** » 10 Jan 2005 12:52

it's not about how high you bring your dexing leg, it's about how fast you can move it directly sideways. the thing about stepping set is that you want to bring your leg to the side, not up high and over, but up a tiny bit and over pretty fast. this will helpyou duck stepping and get clean stepping in no time

zachatree · Post by **zachatree** » 10 Jan 2005 13:21

Sporatical_Distractions wrote:it's not about how high you bring your dexing leg, it's about how fast you can move it directly sideways. the thing about stepping set is that you want to bring your leg to the side, not up high and over, but up a tiny bit and over pretty fast. this will helpyou duck stepping and get clean stepping in no time

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i found this addvice really good, and i gave it a shot and hell ya !!! thanks alot for the wise words.

wolfpac444 · Post by **wolfpac444** » 10 Jan 2005 14:56

Sporatical_Distractions wrote:it's not about how high you bring your dexing leg, it's about how fast you can move it directly sideways. the thing about stepping set is that you want to bring your leg to the side, not up high and over, but up a tiny bit and over pretty fast. this will helpyou duck stepping and get clean stepping in no time

That seems really sketchy to me. Although I can't do it now, when I hit stepping ducking stuff, I really had to emphasize bringing up the knee on my dexing leg; otherwise, it felt super slurry. If you focus to much on going sideways, you are way more likely to pull it through.

Sporatical_Distractions · Post by **Sporatical_Distractions** » 10 Jan 2005 16:12

i guess i should elaborate a little more. i rushed what i said earlier because i was at work. Be sure to not move your dexing leg until you clipper foot has already planted. otherwise you will be slurry, but with that plant, you will have an uber-clean stepping step. I started out doing slurry stepping but since i have realized planting before i move my dexing foot, i have received several compliments about how clean my stepping is. So with this plant, there is no way it will turn out slurry. Some more advice, if you think you might be doing it slurry, try to video tape yourself. that is one hell of a way for self improvement.

starting your stepping after you plant your clipper foot will be hard at first, but as long as you keep up with the advice i gave earlier about thinking more moving your leg to the side instead of up, it will get easier and easier

ericksonj · Post by **ericksonj** » 11 Jan 2005 08:18

yikes I think planting your clipper foot before you move your leg is a tad bit extreme, but if you can do it that way then sweet

My advice for stepping ducking is to keep the bag close to your body. Do not pull it through, but set it straight up and dex right afterwards. As long as you have to dex the bag then it won't be slurry. It's slurry when there is almost no dex at all because you start with your clipper leg half under your other one or pull it through. Then you are stuck with a very lame inside set ducking(lame only since it was supposed to be stepping ducking)

Drill it quite a bit, and try to put as little energy into it as possible. Peter irish is somehow able to hit it with the greatest of ease and with almost no energy or sound. Technique over power is the way to drill this move.

hacksterbator · Post by **hacksterbator** » 13 Jan 2005 23:21

i have tried the side ways quickly method and found that i slurred more often. its' damn near impossible to plant your clip foot before dexing when trying to duck a step (well, at least not when you're thighs are 26 inches around). the high knees thing just seems to keep the set clean for me. honza said i had one of the cleanest stepping ducking sets he'd seen, and he's no slouch when it comes to calling slurry sets.

Adam · Post by **Adam** » 08 Feb 2005 05:20

Nailed ripped warrior today! Thanks everyone for the comments. I'll write up my thoughts about stepping ducking in my blog at 'Kankeri Japan'.

james · Post by **james** » 08 Feb 2005 06:00

Never, never never step by moving your leg over the bag sideways. Lift your knee UP. That is the key to ALL moves.

Uranos · Post by **Uranos** » 06 Jul 2006 04:57

I know this is like a year old but i thought i'd add my thoughts on this:

One great tip i found is to NOT TRY AS HARD

When i failed doing this set it was because i tried to muscle my way into the set, but when i just relaxed it worked like hell

Watch Vasek hitting janiwalker > ripped warrior in FFO Warmups. Its so incredible he puts in 0 effort and he hits it....WATCH IT

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 06 Jul 2006 09:57

I agree with Alex about not forcing the set. I don't even try and set it that high. Just do a clean, normal step set (but do it quickly) and then duck. The other tip (from Andrew) that helped me out, was focusing on keeping my back straight during the step set. If you start ducking DURING the step set, it gets slurred easily.

hacksterbator · Post by **hacksterbator** » 14 Jul 2006 08:53

and you lose power, because your bringing your upper body down for the duck, while your lower body is jumping up. you'll wind up using alot more energy for a lower, slurrier and less efficient set.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 14 Jul 2006 22:26

I think the real key to stepping ducking - and since realising this I think every single person who hits stepping ducking does the same thing - is to set the bag sharply off the clipper set. What I mean is the lateral movement should be fast but small. Do not try and extenuate the clipper setting motion in going for height - this is why people have trouble when they try too hard - because trying to hard usually means you're moving the clipper foot more. The less you can move the foot while still setting it high enough the better. By having a sharp clipper set you effectively give yourself far more time to get your stepping leg up and over the bag - you create a much bigger window. If you have strong stepping sets (and you should to be trying stepping ducking) but the bag keeps hitting your first dexing leg (which is probably the biggest problem that people have with this set) then the problem is almost certainly keeping the bag on your setting foot for too long. The other thing a sharp setting foot does is it means you can plant that foot more - which means you can be supporting your self and pushing off the ground as you're completing the first dex - which means your conserving much more momentum and not fighting against gravity so much and can raise your leg higher also making the move easier.

So sharp clipper sets are the key to good stepping ducking and will help your game heaps in many aspects. You should watch some videos of top players and don't pay attention to how long they stall the bag for but how much they raise their clipper foot when they're setting off it for hard moves. I would say that it's one of the really crucial advanced skills to learn.