Dyno

skoxn · Post by **skoxn** » 18 Nov 2005 02:27

Dyno
SET >> OP OUT [DEX] > BACKSPIN [BOD] > SAME CLIP [XBD][DEL]
http://www.hackrifice.com/moves/4dyno.wmv

wow, there is absolutely no topic about dyno...

well, i managed to hit it several times, but i have some problems.

i figured it out, that it´s easier for me, to start the dyno veery early. like setting the bag and on the downtime motion of the setting foot, the other foot raises to a rev whirl motion. i guess, it´s just that, what you call "uptime".

when i do it like that way, it´s ok for me. but after the set and the first half dex, i don´t really know, when to halfspin. first spin, then stall? first stall, then spin? both in the same time? or maybe i should start turning myself, when i begin to rev whirl the bag...

i´d like to hear your opinions!

DoctorJay · Post by **DoctorJay** » 18 Nov 2005 04:58

in my opinion simultanously - but I won't describe it to you here .

I guess I will show you in person on tuesday. chances are good that I will visit Dortmund

hackeysnacker · Post by **hackeysnacker** » 18 Nov 2005 12:54

I've been working on my dyno's a lot lately, the trick is to make it really smooth so u can set out of it. for one. These are some observations I've made that have been working for me. You'll need a pretty natural feeling osis - since you spin the same way as you would for an osis, this is important. I donno how other ppl do it but I find it best to begin the dex when the bag peaks, pushing off the support leg with your toes and cranking the ankle of the dexing leg while pointing your pointing/lining your shoulder towards the bag as that leg is moving upwards. Once your leg is above the bag turn towards it using that same push off of your toe. after this your body and leg and foot should fall into place (assuming your osis is well trained) and it's very important to get a good bend in the support knee when landing into this trick, otherwise you won't get a good set (it'll probly go flying off horizontally). if your leg tries to whirl instead of reverse whirl, maybe some far osis and osis>ss butterfly drills would help. I'm sure I missed something.. hope this helps a little.

Blackend · Post by **Blackend** » 18 Nov 2005 14:41

Talk to Riley Stark about dyno. His dynos rule.

Samurai · Post by **Samurai** » 19 Nov 2005 23:18

go back in time and ask a dinosaur

.. make sure not to step off the path

the winds of change
affect your game

HG · Post by HG » 20 Nov 2005 10:17

i read that short story sam. YOu have to shoot the T-rex in the eye balls. But he stepped on a butterfly, and now deutsch is the president

hackeysnacker · Post by **hackeysnacker** » 20 Nov 2005 17:45

t-rex is ok, shoot dinosaur jr instead

slapdash21 · Post by **slapdash21** » 20 Nov 2005 17:48

practice rev. whirls (whirls for blender, which is also helpful to learn) and start the trick the same way as a rev. whirl...it helps me to think of it that way so i dex the bag more peak and have time to get underneath it.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 20 Nov 2005 18:33

I think swirls really help for blenders and reverse swirls for dynos. It works the other way too - I figured out that I could do reverse swirl on my flipside because I could dyno with that leg. Work on bringing your foot straight down and moving your body into the clipper position after the dex rather than dragging the bag around too.

Rieferman · Post by **Rieferman** » 29 Mar 2006 07:12

Anymore tips for this one? It's a trick I've inconsistently hit for years.. I get around the bag just fine, and I think I'm "under" it in time, I'm just not under it and centered with the bag, so I miss.. Do I need to turn more into it or something?

ObArA'BaRs · Post by **ObArA'BaRs** » 29 Mar 2006 10:08

bend the knees and go down and stall the bag slower than u would think. my dynos have goten really good and that was what helped me the most because before i went to fast with no delay and it was more like a sweep. practice the trick like you would if u were doing a reverse whirl. good luck

Paul Agostinelli · Post by **Paul Agostinelli** » 31 Mar 2006 21:54

ok, dyno is a trick i have really consistant on my good side, i can do any of my sets into it, as well as ducking diving and spinning, so i consider this a trick i know well.

number one thing is you need a REALLY consistant downtime reverse whirl, as well as a REALLY consistant osis on that side.

the way i do them is to set just like a reverse whirl (in fact i often practice my dynos with a reverse whirl before them, like reverse whirl>dyno) keep your knees very close together, COMPLETE 90 PERCENT OF THE REVERSE WHIRL DEX BEFORE "SPINNING" AT ALL. i wait until my leg has gone all the way around the bag before turning into the osis at all. and when you do osis, you wont miss the bag if you sit into the osis, the more you pull it, the less consistant it will be and your sets out of it will suffer.

bend that support leg and "sit" into the osis and remember that when the trick is finished you are in clipper position.

the most important thing to remember is that dyno is a reverse whirling osis.

now you may say "duh" but seriously think about that, your dex isnt a circle, it should be almost a straight up and down motion, and though dyno looks really smooth and styley, when its done right, it should feel like a reverse whirl bailed to same osis.

one more thing, once the dex is finished, there should be very little movement of the dex/catch leg only as much as you usually do to cushion the bag when you osis.

hope this helps!

~NEL~

hackeysnacker · Post by **hackeysnacker** » 31 Mar 2006 22:11

doesn't reverse whirl include a bigger "hop" than dyno? too big a hop for dyno could lead to a "sweeping" motion.

Paul Agostinelli · Post by **Paul Agostinelli** » 01 Apr 2006 02:30

there really shouldnt be a hop for either of the tricks, just a quick support leg switch.

the hop you are talking about is when you switch your feet back to same side clipper after the dex for reverse whirl.

my footwork for those two tricks are almost identical, the only difference is that i dont plant the dex leg on dyno, i just sit into the osis, which is kinda like a pivot on the ball of my foot, bringing the heel up off the ground just enough so my support leg doesnt get all twisted up.

~NEL~

jay7 · Post by **jay7** » 30 May 2007 09:34

Ok, this page has been dead for some time now.

I can do dyno's just fine, set, 2 inches before peak start the reverse whirl, 2 inches on the fall do the osis, and fully turn.

As long as that little description sounds good, could anyone give me any tips for Paradox(edit, Far?) dynos? I footed Torquescrew, and stepping paradox dyno today, but I know that even with luck I couldn't set them into another trick. I concluded that something with my final turn was off, because it landed similarly a few inches from my foot every time.

I figured the solution was to spin more or less, but for some reason it didn't click.

Any tips?

LEGOMAN · Post by **LEGOMAN** » 30 May 2007 10:24

i dont have any tips for you because i suck at explaining things with words but dyno doesnt get a paradox add as far as i know of

mc · Post by mc » 31 May 2007 07:21

crank your ankle as you're doing the rev whirl dex. small set. catch in frigid position. don't swoop into xbod position too fast. practice rev swirl. practice rev whirl.

badabing.

Sporatical_Distractions · Post by **Sporatical_Distractions** » 31 May 2007 08:49

Setting from a clipper that is a little bit behind you helped me out a lot. It allows for more dexing space than if the clipper set is closer to your support leg.

Ian Brill · Post by **Ian Brill** » 23 Aug 2007 09:24

hackeysnacker wrote:...the trick is to make it really smooth so u can set out of it...You'll need a pretty natural feeling osis...I find it best to begin the dex when the bag peaks, pushing off the support leg with your toes and cranking the ankle of the dexing leg while pointing your pointing/lining your shoulder towards the bag as that leg is moving upwards. Once your leg is above the bag turn towards it using that same push off of your toe. after this your body and leg and foot should fall into place (assuming your osis is well trained) and it's very important to get a good bend in the support knee when landing into this trick, otherwise you won't get a good set (it'll probly go flying off horizontally). if your leg tries to whirl instead of reverse whirl, maybe some far osis and osis>ss butterfly drills would help. I'm sure I missed something.. hope this helps a little.

So articulate and dead on from my experience.

ObArA'BaRs wrote:bend the knees and go down and stall the bag slower than u would think.

Agreed. Especially since the bag seems to hang beside a tilted clipper delay at first but as you settle in your foot cradles it.

hackeysnacker wrote:doesn't reverse whirl include a bigger "hop" than dyno? too big a hop for dyno could lead to a "sweeping" motion.

My experience is that reverse whirl requires a much bigger hop. I usually only have to hop during dyno when I either set too high, too strangely, or I am hitting it from a dive or "paradox". Don't get me started on how silly I think it is that reverse whirl and dyno don't get paradox adds. So what if they are easier.

jay7 wrote:I can do dyno's just fine, set, 2 inches before peak start the reverse whirl, 2 inches on the fall do the osis, and fully turn.

Great detail. It sounds pretty accurate.

jay7 wrote:As long as that little description sounds good, could anyone give me any tips for Paradox(edit, Far?) dynos?

My experience is that you really need push yourself brutally past and underneath it. The feel is much more mid-time (fast) until you finally slow down to rotate and delay the bag.

Matt Cross wrote:catch in frigid position. don't swoop into xbod position too fast.

Sporatical_Distractions wrote:Setting from a clipper that is a little bit behind you helped me out a lot. It allows for more dexing space than if the clipper set is closer to your support leg.

I think this is so important. Particularly if you are just getting used to the motion or learning another side, setting behind and slightly across helps open my window faster for super low, economical (regarding energy expenditure) dynos.

That's my experience. Everyone's is different, but I thought I would at least give you my best advice using some the great advice already posted.

Ian Brill · Post by **Ian Brill** » 23 Aug 2007 09:25

edit: Double post (?)