List of Newb (publicly selling <6 mo.) Stitchers

Senor Grommet · Post by **Senor Grommet** » 11 Sep 2006 14:41

If you are a stitcher who has recently taken up the craft of footbag stitching, post: 1) how long you have been stitching footbags, 2) if you are publicly selling them, privately selling them, or still in the test phase, and 3) how long you've been selling them.

Also feel free to post your thoughts about stitching footbags. Do you feel like it is worth your time? What do you see as the future for footbag stitchers? How much confidence should a stitcher have in his/her bags before selling them on a public forum?

It seems as if the world of stitching footbags is always growing, and it has never been more apparent to me than within the last few months.

Post by **Zac Miley** » 11 Sep 2006 14:46

I do stitch, but don't make money from it, yet.

I've been seriously stitching bags for about 2-3 weeks. Maybe more.

I sell my bags to people at school, and I let my footbag team friends test them.

brinard · Post by **brinard** » 11 Sep 2006 14:47

im still a newb i guess. i barely make your 6 month length limit. i dont like the term newb tho, cause i dont think that applies after you have started selling... since you should be advanced enough to not be a newb, and make bags worth selling.

i make money doing it. it buys me a bag if i want one.

stitching took me to and from chicago for the midwestern regionals.

i started in early march, so i guess ive been stabbing for 6 months.

but whatever. i dont want to be graded on stitching or compared to anyone, because i stitch for me, and let others see my favorite bag style (MINE)

Spontaneous Spaz · Post by **Spontaneous Spaz** » 11 Sep 2006 14:57

been stitching 4 weeks now.. have done 4 full 32's , still in test phase, no selling yet

Mowley · Post by **Mowley** » 11 Sep 2006 15:33

I've been stiching for about 2 1/2 months but the last month is were i've gotten my technique down to a style that im happy with

I don't sell but was planning to but don't know if i am now lol, I like the idea of donating bags and just trading, maybe making one off bags to sell but i don't want masses of my bags in circulation.....

Wasabi · Post by **Wasabi** » 11 Sep 2006 17:43

1) Since late last year, around December.

2) Privately selling/trading them.

3) Since Memorial Weekend (late May).

I don't think it's worth my time, in an economical standpoint. I don't find a huge profit in stitching bags, since a minimum wage job can easily rake up much more money in comparison. I stitch bags for the love of stitching and to give people a bag they would most enjoy. I do sell bags, but that gets wasted easily through dinner and beer expenses.

I suppose there are people that have the volition similar to Richard Abshire in stitching bags and making a large profit over it, but I doubt I can sacrifice that much time into stitching. It's just not in me.

What i see in the future of footbag stitchers is pretty slim, if you ask me. Yes, there is an outbreak of footbag stitchers out there, but what is the majority of those stitchers that really do play footbag? Emily Kulcyzk and Jake Milofsky have told me that playing footbag is as important, if not much more, than really stitching a very choice bag. In fact, anyone can stitch a very choice bag. The rough ideal, technique, utensils and materials are out there for people to begin stitching, and with enough dedication you can make a very good product from scratch. However, how can you fully embrace footbag without putting more dedication into your playing style? I think that is a much more pressing issue.

And yes, with the more footbag stitchers, the demand is spread much more evenly to an extent that some of the veteran stitchers out there are losing much more business. Plus, with the demand of a bag that breaks in quickly/instantly shreddable out of the package, as well as being cheaper, takes away alot of business out there. And I guess quality is lessened to some extent as I haven't found/heard/seen of many newbie stitchers out there taking a few lessons from the true masters of stitching. If this keeps up, footbag stitching will be just a thing in the past (as in nothing revolutionary), and all of the unique techniques to make a better footbag will be diminished over time.

My two cents.

Drew Hamilton · Post by **Drew Hamilton** » 11 Sep 2006 17:53

I stitch for fun and finger strength. If I sold my bags would be critiqued similarly to hyper hacks (no offense). I have made 3 32's and starting to get confident with my stitching and the use of basic techniques. My filler is still quite awful.

akalazou · Post by **akalazou** » 11 Sep 2006 17:56

i started to stitch last autumn, and i lost the count lol, maybe 30 bags .. + about 5 12p

i stitch because i want as many bags as possible from many stitchers, rt now, my 2 best bags i got are, Peng bag and my Brian Denis (which i traded for a FF facile with Kolo because he REALLY wanted it, sorry brian).

i personnaly name my bag Djou-C bags and im at my 4th version of it, they are mini now, caus since iv played with the 2 bags i said earlier, all bags are too big

i did only 2 bags for selling, but i gave alot to Kolo and he gave me t-shirtssss, bags, so its cool, and i mainly stitch for trades. nobody as ever posted a review of my bags but J-M (a friend form Montreal) prefer my bags to footFighters ...

but if you want to buy a bag, i make them 30 CDN shipping included and im up to trade of course

, but not at the moment

, i have 3 bags to do and my dog ate ALL my fabric yesturday

+ the bag i was suppose to restitch + all the panels already cut

AAAAARG !!!!

gonna look colors this week

Zeb Jackson · Post by **Zeb Jackson** » 11 Sep 2006 18:09

ive been stitching for about 7 months, and i sell/trade them to people, im pretty confident in my stitching, but i think that there is room for improvment, because my bag are perfect.

i think stitching is a good past time, it makes having rare bags like lonn bags seem more valuable, because of the time and effort spent into them (IMO)

but i think stitching is one of those things you can do to pass the time at night or after a sesh, and it also help with beer/food money at tournament sometime too

zeroman13 · Post by **zeroman13** » 11 Sep 2006 18:32

I've been stitching since early May. I agree with what Waylon said; "I stitch bags for the love of stitching and to give people a bag they would most enjoy."

Also I think I've found a stitch style that I'm gonna stick with for awhile, but I do believe that my stitching still can use some work. I believe that stitching is a good past-time.

I've sold one bag privately, but really I'm more into stitching for trading and maybe even donating bags.

Drew Hamilton · Post by **Drew Hamilton** » 11 Sep 2006 18:38

Everyone who speaks of donating, seriously, hit me up. I've been trying to find a trade for 3-4 months and I'm unsuccessful.

bluntobj3ct · Post by **bluntobj3ct** » 11 Sep 2006 19:00

ive been stitching for around 6 months now i think, or just over.

the most of the same bag ive ever made is 2, one that went to ben duffle and its counterpart that went to brett dierker. this was only because i REALLY liked that bag style, and as soon as i had finished the 2nd one, i was already changing it up again. filler has constantly changed for me, although i believe at this point ive found a consistent and ultra-sexy blend that works miracles in shred

every single one of my bags has been a test bag. ive never sold one, because ive never offered them for sale. ive been offered money by some shredders who have come in contact with some of my creations, dryden once asked me how much i would sell him bags for to sell on his site after we had an exchange a couple months back. i wasnt ready, (although the bag he got was one of my favs

)

i dont know if ill ever sell bags, most of my core stitching values have come from rich abshire and although my bags are very different from his, im also aware that his bags will always be on top

you cant beat 15+ years of R&D. the only place i think ill ever sell will be at worlds or somethin, where i could (who knows) pay for the trip if i brought enough bags and sold em all out!

im very interested in trades, although im currently backed up on bags im giving away to people

as soon as i get some charity bags out, im going to make 10 or so and offer trades to some of the more affluent stitchers, to get a little taste of whats around. its all a learning experience for me

PegLegHolly · Post by **PegLegHolly** » 11 Sep 2006 19:58

i do love stitching... but not as much as kicking. i feel you cant make a good footbag if you dont kick just as much or more than you stitch. if you dont play footbag and you stitch... well that just doesnt make since... cause how else are you going to know what to do and what not to do when you make a bag. or what you like and what you dont like.

stitching keeps my hands and my mind busy. it kinda keeps me out of reality... close to just as kicking does. unfortunately i dont have the stamina to always kick... and fortunately i dont have the patience to always stitch. i would have to say the majority of my time is taken with school and cartoons. i cant kick in class... but i can stitch in class. and i can kick or stitch in cartoons.

i do think that its sad that a lot of people here recently are making an obscene amount of footbags... and i kind of get this underlying sense that they wouldnt have so much time to stitch so many bags if they just kicked some more. i agree with waylon in the sense that new stitchers as of today wont be revolutionary if they dont take advice from the long-time experienced stitchers. that abshire or irish will still be the ultimate stitchers and the newer ones will be considered "newbs" for a while. although i feel that "newb" is a stupid word and just because youve stitched less than 6 months doesnt mean youre a "newb" because that word implies ignorance. then again im not saying im not ignorant... because in some things i am.

i might have lost you there... i dunno.

kick more than you stitch... i guess thats the summary

skimhumboldt? · Post by **skimhumboldt?** » 11 Sep 2006 20:21

Ive been stitching on and off for about a year+. Ive made about 30 or so bags, most of which in the last month. Ive sold a few to kids at school, but they wernt freestylers, prolly liked my bags because they looked cool. Ive recently really gotten into freestyle and hopefully wont stop.

As far as stitchers confidence goes, i think someone should really test for playibility and durabillity and find something that works and be able to replicate it so you have a consistant product. I personally have come up with a stitching style I like that plays well and can replicate it. I feel that my bags are good enough to sell to people on modified but I would prefer trades. Unless your abshire, I think I would get more pleasure out of getting someone elses bags and finding out how they play rather than getting 25 bucks. I already have a job, so money for a bag doesnt really appeal to me as a source of income. I like to do it for the fun of it and to be able to see a fat collection of bags on my desk.

hey, anybody want to trade?

funklovesfootbag · Post by **funklovesfootbag** » 11 Sep 2006 21:25

Been stitching abouut... 3 months I think. I'm on bag #16, I've sold 1 bag, traded a few, and made bags for a few of my close friends who kick. I would like to sell my bags publicly, because I stitch a lot now and don't have use for all the bags I've made since I already have a ton of good shred bags, and because I need money to get to tournaments (I'm a starving college student, no job.) I haven't found a stitching style which I want to stick with yet; I'm still playing around with amount of gather and spacing.

I don't think it's worth my time really to stitch for money, but I enjoy stitching, so it's like I'm getting paid slave labor wages, but I'm being paid to relax.... so it's worth it. I don't think there's much of a future as far as financial wellbeing goes for most stitchers, with a few exceptions. Just not enough demand, and not enough payout per time ratio.

Stitchers need to have confidence in their stitching before selling bags, unless they make it clear that they have no confidence in their bags. I was completely bummed out when the first bag I bought, a bag I bought from ______, was weak sauce, had crappy filler, and I think blew a panel after a month of play. But, if a new stitchers sold me a bag and told me he wasn't 100% confident in his stitching, or told me he'd repair/replace it, then I'd be happy.

so if anyone wants a bag..

Wasabi wrote,

as I haven't found/heard/seen of many newbie stitchers out there taking a few lessons from the true masters of stitching.

I got taught by Emily (thank you

,) and I've observed Mirken stitching.. I think when I get back I'm going to take a closer look though, and try to duplicate the all-mighty Mirken bag. They're so choice, jesus. The only bag I will compete with.

bluntobj3ct · Post by **bluntobj3ct** » 11 Sep 2006 21:28

holly- skim-

totally agree with both of you

fletcher- no duplication allowed. wataf u talkin bout- frikken be creative. be innovative. make my ninja turtle bag!

much <3 funk

to all:

see pretty vs. playable

soooooooo relevant.

INVENT!

Senor Grommet · Post by **Senor Grommet** » 12 Sep 2006 09:06

Fletch ws all up on my junk in that last post

Anyway, lots of new stitchers! Keep posting and exchanging ideas.

funklovesfootbag · Post by **funklovesfootbag** » 12 Sep 2006 11:08

fletcher- no duplication allowed. wataf u talkin bout- frikken be creative. be innovative.

You wouldn't try and make your OWN type of lightsaber would you? My bags will be slightly different but why fuck with proven methods? +10 to Jeremy's ego.

Wasabi · Post by **Wasabi** » 13 Sep 2006 21:25

Mirken bags are awesome!

/pointless shoutout about Mirken bags

/+5 to Jeremy's ego and rep.

List of Newb (publicly selling <6 mo.) Stitchers

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