Barraging Legover/Switch (Flurry)

ednie · Post by **ednie** » 06 Jun 2004 04:57

SET>OP IN [DEX]>SAME IN [DEX]>OP OUT [DEX]>SAME TOE [DEL]

hi everyone
i was challenged by jeremy today to hit flurry both sides by the end of the week
i am looking for some tips for this move
post if there are some moves i could be working on
i have a fairly good idea what will help me
barrage
double pickup
clip set dlo
barrage sets (i can't be stuffed learning this though)
double pixie
ducking switches
toe set op barraging switch
double pixieing switch
(last two are probably even harder, at least in shoes)

i have no idea which stretches and
physical drills (not involving footbag I could do)
who and how many people have hit flurry,
its probably less than a hundred
so if people could post videos of themselves hitting flurry that would be cool
flurry is a pretty good move
i like it

Lise · Post by **Lise** » 06 Jun 2004 06:43

Hey Dan,
Unfortunately I cannot post a video of myself doing this trick, as it is a little beyond my skill level....!
But there are several video clips out there with this move..
-you can see the move in Flipsider's single trick demos (executed by Ellis)
-you can also see the move in Monsterhack's trick demos (executed by Chad)
-and then there are also several longer videos with flurry in it too: That Dinner video (Vecere) has Vasek hitting it at about 01:10. Also if you check some of the videos at www.footbagdenmark.dk you'll see Ryan hitting it a few times...: There is one called Ryan Mulroney at Danish Open (->02:15). And there's another one called Ryan Mulroney (Long) under Sessions... (->02:25)

Good luck on the challenge..

krawallier · Post by **krawallier** » 07 Jun 2004 05:02

i have not hit flurry yet - as you have seen youself i have a barraging set - so i could probably hit it crispy, but i don't like that style. my normal barrages are pretty good as well i reckon, but i have horrible dlos. IMO you need good downtime dlos, cause if you look at peple doing flurrys it really is a double first dex dlo - symple legover might help also.

if you want to do it furious style - skool ( symp and nonsymp) whirling/blazing sets as well as quantum sets. the furious set itself feels to me like a stepping quantum, though whirling set has helped me most to get it dialed...

good luck on it!

Webslinger · Post by **Webslinger** » 07 Jun 2004 10:02

You have to practise this:
barrage, which starts with a bit whirling set,
dlo and
ducking legover

ShredStylez · Post by **ShredStylez** » 08 Jun 2004 07:27

i would take slingers advice

Splint · Post by **Splint** » 09 Jun 2004 08:01

I would suggest not practicing the set itself at first. The bag is going to come up all by itself even a little bit. You will probably have to modify it later as you get a feel for the proper height.
The first dex is probably your fastest and then the next two almost go over together.
Practice Downtime Clipper Set DLO's and high Barrages.

ednie · Post by **ednie** » 13 Jun 2004 01:49

hi
thanks for the tips
i didn;t see them until today sunday
they will be usefgul when i am drilling
i hit it from right clipper on saturday
i was so happy i forgot to really push myself to hit it flipside
i will hopefully do it tommrow
i just hapened to work on qantum this week so probably helped
goodbye

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 27 Sep 2004 22:14

My advice is to practice real low, fast clipper set DLOs. Try to do them uptime, but without using a set. So plant your set foot really quickly. Try and dex with your ankles (use the lower half of your leg, not the upper half. With down time DLOs, you use the upper half) Once you can do these consistently, just add the extra dex in there.

janis · Post by **janis** » 16 Nov 2006 22:41

I'd love some tips for toe flurry

I can't seem to hit clipper flurry, looking at the video the barrage is downtime, leaving hardly any time for the legover.

Senor Grommet · Post by **Senor Grommet** » 28 Nov 2006 09:59

Since clip set flurry is much easier than toe set and you can't even hit THAT yet, I would suggest that you might not hit toe set flurry for maaaaany months.

watch vids and attack the barrage part of the move as fast as you can. With 3 dexes, there is no time to waste on the first two if you want to leave time to hit the last dex cleanly.

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 28 Nov 2006 10:10

Yeah, if you can't hit clip flurry, don't mess with toe.

To add to my old advice.

1. Do not think about each dex individually.

2. The two key parts of the trick are switching your feet as fast you can (get your set leg on the floor and your support leg off the floor), and attacking the final legover.

3. Do NOT think about dex number two. Switch feet (takes care of dex 1) then immediately nail the legover (the act of completing the third dex forces the second dex to complete).

4. Don't think of a set really. Switching your feet fast and going for the last dex should take care of putting the bag in the right place.

janis · Post by **janis** » 23 Mar 2007 18:12

ok, I have a bizzare problem, I can hit toe flurry from both sides but not clipper set flurry on flipside. Are there any tricks or drills that can help? Should I just do the flipside clipper set flurry all downtime? So far I've been practicing double pickup and barrage from that side but still no luck with flurry. Any advice is appreciated

Reid · Post by **Reid** » 23 Mar 2007 21:34

How consistent do you hit toe flurry? If it is only every umfteenth try I would hold off on that and go to regular flurry. you need good barrages and double legovers. The barrage must be at a good height. To work height I recommend working double pickups and trying to focus on getting the dexes as close to under your knee as possible. Try to keep your leg verticle as much as possible(many people suggest starting the barrage dex as a tight whirl. I find that this is not neccasary, and the double pickups will help in avoiding this(when barrage is used as a set tight whirl may apply)) For the double legover... just school them. simple Legovers may help in getting the motion of moving to the side so you can bring your third dex over. When doing the flurry, the barrage shold be quick, and the move should be continuous mottion like in a double legover. My best advice would be to work on making your barrage higher, and have your motion directed towrads bringing your third dex over.

Uranos · Post by **Uranos** » 08 Apr 2007 04:21

yeah just coz u hit it once it doesnt mean "i can hit it"

Janis, i think you should stop trying these ridiculous tricks way beyond your level.

but if u wanna hit flurry or toe flurry anyway, heres some tips:

- school clipper
- school alternating clippers (try to hit at least 50)
- school infintiies
- school clipper set mirages (do this dril: ss clip > ss mirage rpt for 50 contacts)
- school dlo ( i know you may think ur pretty good at this, and i know u can hit this, but hit it well enough so u can hit 10 in a row)
- school whirls (and i mean school them not just hit 2 in a row)
- school clipper set barrage

maybe those might help. long process tho

janis · Post by **janis** » 08 Apr 2007 05:26

Uranos wrote:but if u wanna hit flurry or toe flurry anyway, heres some tips:

- school clipper
- school alternating clippers (try to hit at least 50)
- school infintiies
- school clipper set mirages (do this dril: ss clip > ss mirage rpt for 50 contacts)
- school dlo ( i know you may think ur pretty good at this, and i know u can hit this, but hit it well enough so u can hit 10 in a row)
- school whirls (and i mean school them not just hit 2 in a row)
- school clipper set barrage

Been doing all of those -the infinities. It's not like I try this trick very often, mabye a couple of times a week, but going for big tricks is what I find fun about footbag, it's why I play. The last session I was doing flurries I was hitting toe flurry about 1 in every 3 or 4 tries, I know that's not very consistent, but I have never managed to hit a flurry off right clipper and that bugs me.

Uranos · Post by **Uranos** » 08 Apr 2007 21:14

1 in every 3 or 4 tries? thats pretty good! thats not a "one off thing" at all, show me sometime! so u hit flurry from left clipper?

janis · Post by **janis** » 19 Apr 2007 20:58

Webslinger wrote:You have to practise this:
barrage, which starts with a bit whirling set,
dlo and
ducking legover

that is great advice, especially the first tip.

I managed to hit flurry bsos today by making the first dex more like a whirl. Previously I was doing the barrage just like a clipper set barrage and setting the bag a bit to the side, but this makes the move much less consistent.

janis · Post by **janis** » 20 May 2007 03:11

SET>OP IN [DEX]>SAME IN [DEX]>OP OUT [DEX]>SAME TOE [DEL]

Anyone have tips on doing this? Today I was hitting toe flurries quite easily (about 20 out of 30 attempts) but they were peaktime and this made any sets impossible. Before I go nuts on these I'd like to get some advice on form and techniques. Does anyone have any particular ways of thinking about this trick or any particular techniques that help? Any exercises or drills that help? Any tips are greatly appreciated.

just so this thread doesn't become a "stfu noob and just fkn practice basics thread": I've been drilling all the component moves and I will continue to do so, and also I don't intend to spend much time on these, more a once every now and then thing.

[merged into flurry thread - Frank_]

mc · Post by mc » 21 May 2007 09:01

watch those two clavens vids recently where he hits downtime flurry from pixie set. Keep doing them peaktime so you get them fast and tight. I don't think getting a consistant downtime flurry is going to happen if you just try it now and again. it's so fast, there's no trick to it. just keep doing it until you can do it faster.

this is coming from someone who's hit toe flurry twice, and it was definitely with a low set, so take it as you will. Seriously, though, I doubt there's a trick to it. I'll give you some advice jorden has given me on numerous occasions when he's talking me through a trick...

"okay, that was good, now do it twice as fast."

dig?

david · Post by **david** » 21 May 2007 10:11

Well I guess out of the people who might have read this I've hit the trick most. Either me or Landes (who does them downtime anyway).

I would've pmed you this but people probably would like to read it also.

Alright, so my epic journey to learn downtime flurry started with dialing the SHIT out of toe barrage. To the point where barrage>ss barrage repeat isn't really that hard, and your cleaning them. I can hit that drill maybe 1/4, which is pretty good. So you need to have that super fast. Advice for that is basically just like, hop back really fast and start the dexes.

Alright, toe flurry. Now your saying you hit them midtime, or peak or whatever, well, I do too. So basically you need to reverse your thinking. You think you need to do it all downtime to do it out of a set. This is wrong. You need to make your set faster so you can start the dexes like normal. Watch my pixie flurry or vaseks blurry flurry, we get the dexes started midtime. The key here is not a fast downtime flurry (though it helps), but rather finding that sweet spot in time right after the pixie.

So, you want to put your pixie foot down UBER fast. Like, set and drive it into the ground. Then switch your weight really fast and start ripping the 2nd dex, and then do the last 2 dexes at the same time so they fall into each other (thus making 2 things happen at once, saving you time).

I think practicing toe flurry and pixie barrage will help you the most. And film it and make sure your cleaning it or else people won't really find it too amazing (anyone can the a toe flurry). On getting it cleaner: start the dexes early and set higher then you think. That way you can get it more up under you. The reason I the flurries (sometimes), is because I jump so damn high that im over the bag just wiggling. That means its the.

Watch videos, and do the movement without the bag a lot.

good luck.

dc