in how many years will a 6 dex move will be hit??

[Slowsis]

idk much about huge dex moves BUT cudnt a black guy who can jump really high, pull off a 6 dex jus by timing and jumping really high and setting the bag super high? im jus throwing that in there, wud that work?

btw, omg ive never seen a black person play footbag. honestly, i have never seen one and ive watched a ton of jams on youtube etc. wow, that just occurred to me. haha btw im not racist but have YOU seen a black guy play footbag?

Wow. Clean up your attitude before you post anything else.

[fatbagger]

one word

Sunil

[Yellow Watchbagger]

idk much about huge dex moves BUT cudnt a black guy who can jump really high, pull off a 6 dex jus by timing and jumping really high and setting the bag super high? im jus throwing that in there, wud that work?

btw, omg ive never seen a black person play footbag. honestly, i have never seen one and ive watched a ton of jams on youtube etc. wow, that just occurred to me. haha btw im not racist but have YOU seen a black guy play footbag?

Wow. Clean up your attitude before you post anything else.

i realize my post is 'out there' but relax i meant nothing by it. just curious if jumping higher could make dexing easier. btw my attitudes fine, in fact i have cancer and ive stayed positive the entire time about it. im living strong bra.

[Cod]

Sunil Jani, Manna Mpepo and Daryl Kanady are the only Black footbagers I can think of. It's an off-topic but I wonder why there are only few Black players.

[Yellow Watchbagger]

cod, i cant think of any reasons why there aren't many. i would like to see more, i think they would have unique styles.

[shredzilla]

Sunil's black? That's news to me. He looks Indian or Bangladeshi.

[mc]

Sunil is not black.

http://modified.in/footbag/viewtopic.php?t=14138

that is a topic about black footbaggers. maybe further off-topic discussion of black freestylers should be held there?

[C-Fan]

Wow, just when I thought the worst thread on modified couldn't get any worse...

[sonofgenkai18]

I'm sure there are worse.

Try to have an open mind Ken.

[Frank_Sinatra]

Yeah, Ken, give ignorant assumptions a chance.

[shredzilla]

footbag: endless sarcastic 1upsmanship

[sonofgenkai18]

I'm confused as to what my ignorant assumption is...



man...no wonder this site spawns people like Kyle.



Isn't Shred Symp. for discussing "big add moves" and "concepts"?

It's like some of the vets out there get personally offended when some of the newer players do it. It's ridiculous. Sometimes it is just fun to talk about the possibilities in this sport. It's no different for any other sport...pushing the limits is a universal practice and discussing it before hand is no different.

Everyone on this thread who has named a possible "6 dex" move is only sharing a "concept". (using this part of the site the way it's supposed to be used)

If you vets can't dig it then don't read it; but in my opinion, the last thing you should be doing is telling the newer players on this thread that they're not qualified to discuss these "concepts" (as if there were an official qualification for it) or just treating them like their concepts are a joke. It turns newer players off and makes payers like me, who have been really dedicated for nearly 2 years or so, lose respect for the people I looked up to. And it definitely doesn't make me want to spend my money traveling to a tourny to play with the guys that are telling me that I'm not qualified to talk about the possibilities in this sport.

Next time one of you is going to post something stupid, sarcastic, derogatory, or the like...think about what new players might see and be totaly put off by the caliber of asshole this sport harbors.

I know some of you are beyond convincing but hopefully the others get where I'm coming from.

[Frank_Sinatra]

First of all, I didn't say you made ignorant assumptions. But this thread is full of them.

Second, shouldn't it tell you something that the best players who still bother to come to this forum have disregarded this thread pages and pages ago? The players who actually have credibility about something like 'furious nuclear' or 'swirling barraging' aren't seriously considering it. Yes, ridiculous concepts are fun to think about. But IMO where this thread jumps the shark is when its stated that 'concept x' is possible. If this thread were named "impossible things that are fun to think about" then it'd be a very different discussion.

Here's an example - I've been trying nuclear set on one side. No success so far. For me to make any kind of assertion about what never hit before tricks can be hit out of that set is silly. Until I've got actual experience with it, I'm ignorant on the subject. I've never hit furious set either and that is way off in the distance (if ever). So can I claim that something out of furious nuclear is possible or not? No. Because how can I know?

Finally, isn't it obvious that Ken's comment was directed at the recent posts? Are the posts by Yellow Watchbagger really a contribution? No, they're just ignorant, vaguely racist bullshit.

I don't think we should just have vaguely racist bullshit posted here and respond by 'not reading it'. We shouldn't tolerate this shit - and the respected vets in the sport are setting an example and I appreciate that Ken at least shot some of it down.

I appreciate where you are coming from in saying that the ideas of new players are often marginalized on a 'who you are determines how right you are' basis. I think there is truth to that. But pick your battles man, this one is not gonna help you. I don't think you should personalize these discussions.

I think that your suggestion to keep an open mind to the particulars discussed in this thread is just way off base. I'm open to the idea of someone hitting a six dex trick, but it'll need to be on video. High def and slow motion. I'm not gonna keep an open mind to someone making a declarative statement about something they can't possibly know, regardless of how long they've been playing or what level of play they are at. And I'm not gonna keep an open mind to the kind of shit Yellow Watchbagger posted.

[sonofgenkai18]

Fair enough.

I disregarded Watchbaggers comments for the same reason Ken shot them down...I was referring to the fact that this isn't the worst thread on modified as Ken said.

This thread seems to be full of vets who totally disregard the possibility of these moves...but in the same sense that they believe new players can't possibly know what is possible in the sport...they can't possibly know where the limits will stop.

And if I'm not mistaken this thread started as a poll on how many years it will take a 6 dex move to be hit, included in which were options to vote on the possiblity of the move as well. This is obviously going to breed some discussion on what type of move could lead to this in the future. So it's not like people throwing out ideas are totally out of place in this thread.

I don't why I get so bent out of shape about this, but I look up to guys like Ken so much...but to hear him say, "If it's not clean and on video it never happened(not verbadum)" (especially after the Leviathan controvesy ) is a bit disheartening.

I'd like to think that if Jim says he hit 10 6's or Olaf says he's hit 3 quints...people can believe it and be excited that the sport is reaching such extremes by today's standards, without speculating the validity of the claim due to lack of footage.

meh.

[sonofgenkai18]

To be fair as well...this topic is almost 4 years old now.



So half of tha poll is void.

[MrMeebles]

Just ... won't ... die.

Ok, I'm probably not one of the "vets" anyone's refering to, but I can tell you why I think this is the stupidest thred I've ever bothered to read (I'm sure there are worce and I'm glad I've never read them). Someone wrote:

> I think 7 dex's[sic] mabey 8 would be in the realm of reality. For exampe mabey smp.
> barraging nuclear mo-fly swirl could be hit.

Ok why do you think that? Have you actually ever seen symposium barraging nuclear? How about mo-fly swirl? Can you explain to me how you'd do the move, where the momentum comes from, the timing? Is there in fact any reasoning behind that quote at all? Pages upon pages are filled with this crap. I could say "I think Vasek plays footbag so well because invisible faeries gently guide his feet" and everyone reading will have gained about as much useful information as from the above quote.

If you have an opinion, lovely, please try to actually base it in reality and explain the reasoning for it. Personally this thread drives me crazy because obviously enough of you care enough to keep posting here, but few of you seem to care enough to actually think through your opinion before posting it. I probably should just ignor it, but it's a subject I am actually interested in and for some reason I keep checking back hoping to find some interesting new annalysis, some bit of insight. But as we all know, hoping is the first step towards disapointment.

[max]

Yeah, could an admin PLEASE delete this topic? People are giving opinions on an internet forum without giving reasoned explanations!

This is just getting so out of control.

By far the Worse Thread On The Internet. Oh and I'll pop in and bitch about this topic every week to claim how it sucks too.

[sonofgenkai18]

I have the feeling that if the requirement for a thread to stay alive is you can't post an opinion without a reasoned explaination...this site would be nearly empty.


but thats just my opinion.

The off topic crap in the last few pages is a bit ridiculous but some of it stems from the stuff the "Vets" i'm reffering to have been saying about this topic. Or more specifically the way they say it.

On the actual topic, when I posted my opinion on the 6dex concept a few pages back... I based it on what I've seen other players hit...whats in the realm of more advanced players possibilities. I gave examples based on my studies of other players game.

So I see where you're both coming from.

If the mods are going to delete this...then I vote that Meebles restart it with rules in the first post... to only post a concept if you have a good arguement to back it up.

but again...thats just my opinion.

[Jeremy]

The topic obviously isn't going to be deleted. It's active and largely discussing the issue at hand, and it's in the right sub forum. It's vaguely annoying that there are so many posts merely complaining about people speculating rather then adding any content themselves, but I find it more amusing than annoying.

It is interesting to note just how many footbag concepts came from people thinking about and discussing the moves before they could be hit. As somebody mentioned earlier, it's much easier to hit something that you've heard about then to come up with all the concepts yourself. I think speculative topics definitely have value in inspiring people to try things they might not have thought of before - even if they're not trying 6 dex moves, but a 2 dex move instead. Famous moves like nemesis came from people proposing things (even as a joke) that they were no where near hitting at the time, and indeed it's the way nemesis was conceived that has added to its renown.

Maybe a 6 dex will never be hit. Maybe the people discussing it have no idea what they're talking about. It still has no effect on the people who don't want to discuss the issue. Complaining about this topic is like complaining about people talking about basketball because you don't like the sport.

[sonofgenkai18]

hazzah.