Muted

zeroman13 · Post by **zeroman13** » 13 May 2006 08:21

I've been hearing this alot lately and was wondering what it is?

habitat · Post by **habitat** » 13 May 2006 08:42

way I learned

think of magellan/pixie ss legover ...

do the pixie set, but don't plant your leg, then do the ss legover. You just did muted magellan! Apply this to many moves, common muted moves would be stepping ss moves, pixie ss moves, tapping. I think quantum is fucking sick muted!

zeroman13 · Post by **zeroman13** » 13 May 2006 09:19

So muted is not planting the leg thats doing the dex? Like, say for example, stepping ss legover. Instead of planting the dexing leg, you would just bring it back over for the legover, right?

Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 13 May 2006 11:51

Yeah, you got it

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 14 May 2006 18:54

people also sometimes refer to moves without a plant that would usually have one as muted. For example if I hit atomic clipper (toe>op out>same clip) - aka cripy grifter - without planting the atomic leg after the dex you'd call the move "atomic muted clipper". - Actually maybe you could call it muted atomic clipper but I always tend to put the muted term immediately before the component that it refers to - ie. in this case it is the clipper that is muted not the atomic dex.

Oroza · Post by **Oroza** » 17 Sep 2006 12:44

Jeremy wrote:people also sometimes refer to moves without a plant that would usually have one as muted. For example if I hit atomic clipper (toe>op out>same clip) - aka cripy grifter - without planting the atomic leg after the dex you'd call the move "atomic muted clipper". - Actually maybe you could call it muted atomic clipper but I always tend to put the muted term immediately before the component that it refers to - ie. in this case it is the clipper that is muted not the atomic dex.

um...i think its the atomic that changes not the clipper... so muted atomic clippersounds better. or maybe atomic mute clipper, to keep it sequencial

I mean theirs no muted clipper right?

zeroman13 · Post by **zeroman13** » 17 Sep 2006 13:19

I see what your getting at with that, but what about pixie muted clipper? It would be in the same boat as atomic muted clipper.

Jeremy did a really good job on the explanation about it. You can say/put muted where you want, but it will probably be better recognized with the 'muted' after the first component of the trick.

mc · Post by mc » 18 Sep 2006 16:58

the dex that goes unplanted is what's muted, so it's correct to say muted pixie clipper, and incorrect to say pixie muted clipper. There's nothing muted about the clipper.

james_dean · Post by **james_dean** » 18 Sep 2006 17:41

Wouldn't you put muted inbetween the two concepts where you don't plant? Pixie muted legover - both dexes are muted, but you put muted inbetween because that's where the muted part is?

Post by **Zac Miley** » 19 Sep 2006 11:36

It's pretty self-explanatory no matter where you put the muted, as long as you're not muting crazy moves.

Slowsis · Post by **Slowsis** » 19 Sep 2006 12:56

Oroza wrote:I mean theirs no muted clipper right?

I think muted implies a dex.

mc · Post by mc » 19 Sep 2006 20:03

james_dean wrote:Wouldn't you put muted inbetween the two concepts where you don't plant? Pixie muted legover - both dexes are muted, but you put muted inbetween because that's where the muted part is?

"both dexes are muted"

I don't agree. What's muted about the legover in a muted pixie legover? the legover dex is symple, not muted. You can't mute a downtime dex. "muted" is like an adjective, and in the english language, you put the adjective before the word it's describing. A set with an uptime dex that is not planted before the next component is what is muted.

So you should say muted pixie SS legover, muted pixie legover (symple implied), or muted atomic same foot clipper. It's incorrect to say the set, then say muted.

It's not like I can't figure out what someone means when they say pixie muted clipper, and it's not like I'm going to take time out of my day to correct them. I just happen to think a certain way is right, and a certain way is wrong, and I think I've got good reasoning for thinking that.

james_dean · Post by **james_dean** » 19 Sep 2006 20:11

Haha, damn, you are right!

Oh and I meant ss legover in my example, no symple.

Wasabi · Post by **Wasabi** » 27 Jan 2008 14:23

I don't understand the muted concept in stepping ss legover, as explained above. Does this imply that after you step out of the set, the clipper that you set the bag up is the leg that is planted as you go for the legover, thus making the stepping dex muted? I'm imagining it, and I can't see how both legs can be off of the ground at the same time.

mc · Post by mc » 27 Jan 2008 14:43

you would say "muted stepping ss lego"

you would do a clipper, set the bag, plant the initial clipper foot, dex BUT NOT PLANT with the other leg, and then perform the legover with the leg that did the stepping, with (as I said) no plant for the leg that is doing both dexes between the 2 dexes.

can you dig it?

Wasabi · Post by **Wasabi** » 27 Jan 2008 14:52

I dig.

Asmus · Post by **Asmus** » 28 Jan 2008 05:27

I don't agree Matt.

It is not the dex (or the stall) that is muted but the transformation from one trick to the other. Thats why I think the muted should be between the two elements.

This makes even more sense when there is no dex. When you want to say right toe to a clipper with your right foot muted style. There will be a confusion if you say muted toe clipper. Since it could be the toe stall that there was no plant before. But by saying toe muted clipper everybody knows that it is between the toe stall and the clipper.

Does that make sense? I think it does..

Tsiangkun · Post by **Tsiangkun** » 30 Jan 2008 11:45

um, no, because matt's explanation fits so well with how I believe adjectives work.

If one really wants to focus on the word muted, the dex is muted. Normally the foot hits the ground, and there is a sound produced, but with muted tricks there is no ground contact after the dex, thus there is no noise, and the trick is said to be muted.

Yes, I just made up that definition to help the confused understand muted, knowing there is no relationship between the use of muted for the concept and sounds of tricks.

mc · Post by mc » 30 Jan 2008 13:08

asmus, i see what you're saying, but I think you're misusing muted a bit. you say "toe muted clipper" as an example, but muted is something that (as far as I can think of) is intended to only refer to dexes.

cameron, I never thought of it like that. I think there might be some etymological link between the term muted and the fact that there is no planting sound when you mute something. interesting!

anyway, I stand by my explanation.

Langstaff · Post by **Langstaff** » 30 Jan 2008 13:24

Man, I honestly didn't even realise this was muting. It always feels half-assed when I mute Tap, so I wouldn't have imagined people doing it on purpose. I suppose it would be quite cool in more advanced moves though. Kewl