North American Freestylers Headcount

cd · Post by cd » 15 Feb 2012 17:19

I'd like to see how many active footbag players there really are in North America. This is different from the Top Players list since it's intended to count everyone who is a serious player and current participant in the sport.

I am setting the criteria as follows:

Status: You are an active player who practices regularly to get better, to compete, or simply for fitness.

Involvement in the sport: You are part of the community, the freestyle scene. You attend events and/or are part of an active freestyle club and/or have a modified presence/post videos/do shows, etc.

The list is about seeing how many people are involved in footbag as athletes, as a way of gauging how active the sport is on this continent.

US
Dean (OR)
Landes (OR)
Bevier (OR)
Red (OR)
Karasek (OR)
Colclough (OR)
Linscott (OR)
BustinJustin (WA)
Cale (OR)
Ken (CO)
Evan (NV)
Skaggs(NV)
Penske (ID)
Zeb (ID)
Zac(ID)
Kemmer (NY)
Cross (NY)
Miley (KS)
Bear (CA)
Dworetzky (CA)
Monistere (LA)
Polini (PA)
Jahner (MI)
Pipenberg (PA)
Davidson (IL)
Drew (NY)
Schneider (NJ)
Monhollan (CA)
Goode (NJ)
Bowler (MA)
Tank (MA)
Hogan (MA)
Kotsakos (IL)
Cory (MO)
Tim (IL)
Nathan (IL)
Reid (IL)
Fletcher (IL)
Creel (IL)
Matthews(CA)
Cooke (NY)
Dole (NY)
Workman (OR)
Beyers (NY)
Fogel (MO)
Green (AZ)
Cleaver (CA)
Overbo(IL?)
Wayway(NY)
Dustin(CA)
Amotz(CA)
Connor(CA)
Goldberg(CA)
Tristan(MA)
Corey(NJ)
Ian(PA)
Reilley(WA)
Dan Reed(WA)
Behmer(WA)
Reifer(PA)
Pasquarello(OH)
Angeski(OH)
Gayhart(PA)
Greer(PA)
Hamilton(AK)
Thomass(VA)
Peter H(CA)
Mudd(CA)

Canada
Boychuk
Moir
Dante
Mathieu G
Mathieu GM
Haggett
Chan
Greenwood
Greg
Bagi
Tony Whitney
Rory
Pirrotta
Deschamps
Janis

worldbound · Post by **worldbound** » 15 Feb 2012 17:57

I shred several hours a day for a year now, still not guiltless. Maybe this year.

Nathan · Post by **Nathan** » 15 Feb 2012 18:21

Well, Nick and I are the only guiltless players at Penn State, so we're covered.

You're missing the Boson Crew - Doug Tank, Pete Bowler, Kevin Hogan

sen · Post by **sen** » 15 Feb 2012 21:44

I play regularly. But I'm not guiltless. I'm pretty strong tiltless though.

CIC flurry · Post by **CIC flurry** » 15 Feb 2012 22:39

yo + 4

cd · Post by cd » 15 Feb 2012 23:16

Who else in Chicago is active? I haven't been there in a long time.

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 16 Feb 2012 07:20

Nathan wrote:You're missing the Boson Crew

I love that crew. Such great energy...that's probably why they can occupy the same place in space. Great quantums too.

Your list is missing Zeb and Zac Jackson, Ben Skaggs, Jeff Overbo, and Ian Brill. Also some NYFA, notably Ben Cooke. Not sure how active people like Alex Faber, Matt Isanuk, and Taylor Chantreuil are.

As for Canada, Allen Haggett is still active, and shredding hard. Does Manna Mpepo still play?

And if you're going to count Moir, I think Clavens should count too. Neither is particularly active on the forums or at tournaments, but they both still play and are both still amongst the best on the continent.

CIC flurry · Post by **CIC flurry** » 16 Feb 2012 12:21

cd wrote:Who else in Chicago is active? I haven't been there in a long time.

me
tim
nathan
reid
fletcher

i would count rob creel, but I've only played with him once since he moved here.
Not sure if Grant's playing, but I know he's down to.
jamez (iowa), i think hasn't been playing for the past year much, but I'll ask him saturday

CIC flurry · Post by **CIC flurry** » 16 Feb 2012 12:23

C-Fan wrote:
Nathan wrote:You're missing the Boson Crew
I love that crew. Such great energy...

Slowsis · Post by **Slowsis** » 16 Feb 2012 12:36

Here is some Canada!

Erik Chan = Semi Active

Greg Raymond from Kingston...plays with Dante all the time. Strong guiltless and active.

Adam Greenwood (Me) - Strong Guiltless/Active/Go to some minor shreds and events, but not that many tournies.

John Bagi from Kingston is semi active.

FlexThis · Post by **FlexThis** » 16 Feb 2012 13:39

I fit the criteria for USA

Thanks,

Damon

cd · Post by cd » 16 Feb 2012 14:56

55 so far! Thanks for all the responses and PM's.

I decided to include non-guiltless players such as Tony and Mike above. Also Derrick Fogel, because he's obviously holding it down and representing better than most high-level players out there.

To clarify, the reason for this headcount is really about measuring the current health of the sport in America, and not about asking "who's good enough to make the list?". I'm trying not to come off that way.

That's why I set certain criteria in the first place, so as not to dilute the list with people who aren't truly in the game. I didn't want to count retired or inactive players. And I didn't want to be adding bunches of casual players who might sometimes go to sessions and have lavers, but aren't serious about footbag as a sport.

Slowsis · Post by **Slowsis** » 16 Feb 2012 18:52

The scene has definitely slowed down a bit, at least in Canada.

I have seen a lot of young players start up since I have, but drop out before progressing to far....I don't know what it is. You couldn't STOP me skooling once i got into it.

Pirrotta · Post by **Pirrotta** » 16 Feb 2012 20:25

Now that you have changed the criteria a bit what exactly would qualify a certain non guiltless player?.

sen · Post by **sen** » 16 Feb 2012 20:52

cd wrote: I decided to include certain non-guiltless players such as Tony and Mike above. Also Derrick Fogel, because he's obviously holding it down and representing better than most high-level players out there.
.

I'm Canada, not US.

worldbound · Post by **worldbound** » 16 Feb 2012 23:25

Wha? I made the list?

Time to go Guiltless!

cd · Post by cd » 17 Feb 2012 00:41

Pirrotta wrote:Now that you have changed the criteria a bit what exactly would qualify a certain non guiltless player?.

I don't know, when I thought about it again guiltless isn't a great way to measure this. I just meant to get an idea of how many active freestylers we had in NA excluding casual kickers and retired players.

I'm going to change that criteria bc skill level isn't central to this headcount; it's more about counting actual involved athletes in the sport.

We're around 60 by the way. When I tried counting on my own previously, it was only in the 30's which was disappointing. Glad to see the scene is more populated than that.

h0ag3yb3atZ · Post by **h0ag3yb3atZ** » 17 Feb 2012 01:02

boson represent.

Tristan Delaney should be on that list as well.

C-Fan · Post by **C-Fan** » 17 Feb 2012 07:30

7evinkogan wrote:boson represent. .

Muffinman · Post by **Muffinman** » 17 Feb 2012 08:38

Slowsis wrote:The scene has definitely slowed down a bit, at least in Canada.

I have seen a lot of young players start up since I have, but drop out before progressing to far....I don't know what it is. You couldn't STOP me skooling once i got into it.

Yeah. I don't think my Hackrifice crew plays anymore, and they were all really good. Byrin said he might be getting back into it, but I'm unsure how that's going.. What about Ianek? Does he still play? And Johnny? I'm pretty sure Rory Dawson still plays.