READ BEFORE POSTING! (Master List, and sub forum rules)

[Muffinman]

IMPORTANT! READ BEFORE YOU POST!!!
OFFICIAL RULES FOR 'TRICK TIPS' FORUM:


Below is a master list of all current threads for both posting and requesting help and advice for a single
trick, set, or other trick element. Unless a topic for the trick you wish to post about does not exist, please
restrict your posting to already existing threads.
If a thread does not exist for the trick you have a question about, or wish to give advice for, please
create your topic, topic 'subject', and Job's Notation in accordance to the organization of the rest of the
forum. (Please specify the 'subject' with the technical name of the trick, and the non-technical name (if
applicable), (and video if possible!) in parenthesis.) Please PM a mod if you start a new thread, so that it
can be added to the master list.
Please try to keep this forum as organized as possible -- I spent hooouuurss cleaning it up and it's for
everyone's benefit!
If you have further suggestions, questions, or comments (a trick under the wrong add category? bad
Job's? -- my bad.) for this forum, and the organization thereof, please reply to this thread, or send a mod a PM. If
in doubt create a thread and PM a mod -- the worst that will happen is that it will be renamed or merged with another thread.





MASTER LIST
beautiful idea

NEW PLAYERS
['how do you decide what tricks to hit on the spot?']
['how to string moves?']
['i'm having trouble doing 'around the ball' anything...']
['i'm new -- where do i start?']
['what are the fundamental tricks?']
['what comes after the basics?']
['when should i move on to 3 adds?']
beginners: kicking guide

GENERAL ADVICE
[learning the flipside]
advice: ask Jorden
advice: balance
advice: big tricks/long runs [by Jorden]
advice: frame-by-frame video
advice: learning new tricks
advice: practicing
advice: videos for suggestions and comments
breathing
double dexing/double downs
symposium to symposium

INFORMATION/TECHNIQUE
['"how many adds is this?" thread, a']
['what do all these trick names mean?']
['what is this trick called?']
Old School Tricks
technique: barefoot form tips
technique: dexing technique
technique: lifting bag from ground
technique: planting on ducks
technique: rhythm
uptime/downtime (single-motion moves)
1-Foot, 2-Bag Juggling
2-Foot, 3-Bag Juggling

TERMINOLOGY
terms: corpsegrinder
terms: frontside + backside
terms: ss
terms: stomping
terms: symposium and symple
terms: tootsie roll
terms: wauxpin

VIDEO
600 videos of footbag moves
video demo: footbag freestyle sitdown tutorial
video demo: moves by Anz
video demo: Polini's Pointers Presents
video demo: sets by Hood




SETS:
setting consistency
[set height: general]
[set demo videos: by Hood]
[misc: Muted]
Atomic/Tapping
______Symposium Atomic (Flailing)
______Atomic-Spinning (Neutron)
______Paradox Atomic (Nuclear)
Double Spinning
Ducking
______[set height: spinning/ducking]
______Double ducking
______Diving/Weaving Ducking/Zulu
Fairy/Shut
______Inside-set Fairy/Shut (Neo)
______Fairy/Shut-Spinning
Furious/Barraging
Gyro-Stepping (Surging)
Gyro Symposium (Spyro)
Inspinning
Knee-bumping, Pixie/Open (Pimpy)
Pendulous
Pixie/Open
______Pixie/Open Spinning
______Rooted Pixie/Open (Hyper)
Pixie/Open-Atomic (Sailing)
Pixie/Open-Quantum (Frantic)
Quantum/Slapping
______Paradox Quantum (Quasi)
Spinning
______advice: faster spinning
______Spinning-Ducking
______Gyro
______Gyro-Diving
______Zooming
Stepping-Atomic (Shooting)
Stepping/Blurry
______Symposium Stepping (Pogo)
______Stepping-Ducking
Stepulous
Swirling
Toe (set)
Whirling/Blazing


0-ADD:
Outside kick
Inside kick


1-ADD:
Clipper Kick
Frigidosis
Inside Stall
Monster
Outside Stall
Toe Stall/Corpse Grinder
______alternating: toe stalls


2-ADD:
Around The World (ATW)/Around/Orbit
Calf stall (Cloud)
Clipper
______['is it bad if my clippers touch the ground?']
______alternating: clippers
______advice: ankle crank
______Clipper, barefoot
Dragon
______Dragon [poll: are they worth doing?]
Flying Knee Clipper
Heel Stall
Illusion
Legover/Switch
______['why doesn't far legover/switch/pickup get paradox?']
Mirage
Pendulum
Pickup
Pincher
______advice: moves out of pincher
Pixie
Swirling Monster
Symple Legover/Switch
Toast


3-ADD:
Atomic Mirage (Atom Smasher)
Butterfly/Down
Crossbody Rake
Crossbody Sole Delay (Flapper)
Double ATW (DATW)
Double ATW (DATW) [poll: which direction is easier?]
Double Legover/Mixer (DLO)
Double Mirage (Barrage)
Double Pickup
Double Switchover, Far (Reaper)
Dragon Osis (Drag)
Drifter
Drifter, Reverse (Grifter)
Ducking Clipper
Ducking Mirage
Eclipse
Eggbeater
Eggbeater, clipper-set (Bubbabeater)
Fairy/Shut XBD Rake
Far Reverse Swirl/Twist
Hopover
Knee-Bumping Atomic Mirage
Osis
Pixie/Open Mirage (Smear)
Pixie/Open Same Legover/Switch (Magellan)
Pixie Same Pickup [muted]
Refraction
Reverse Swirl/Twist
Stepping SS Clipper
Swirl
Swirl [downtime]
Symposium Illusion (Flail)
Symposium Mirage
Symposium Pixie
Toe Spinning Mirage
Tootsie Roll
Wauxpin
Whirl
______technique: knee pain from whirls
Whirl, Reverse/Whip


4-ADD:
Barfly
Barraging Legover/Switch (Flurry)
Blender
Blurry Butterfly/Stepping Far Down (Ripwalk)
______alternating: ripwalks
Blurry Illusion (Blizzard)
Bubba same Butterfly/Bubba Near Down
Butterfly/Down Rake
Butterfly/Down Swirl
Double Reverse Swirl/Twist (Revstein)
Double Reverse Whirl/Whip [Reverse Whirr)
Double Swirl (Ripstein)
Double Whirl (Whirr)
Drifter Swirl (Swifter)
Ducking Barrage
Ducking Double Legover/Ducking Mixer
Dyno
Gyro Butterfly/Down
Fairy/Shut Crossbody Rake
Gyro Double Legover/Gyro Mixer
Gyro Drifter (Vortex)
Hopover Reverse Swirl
Hopover Swirl
Miraging Symp Mirage (Merlin)
Nuclear Mirage (Sumo)
Paradox Drifter
Paradox Whirl
Paradon
PS Mirage
Pixie Butterfly/Open Far Down (Dimwalk)
Quantum Eggbeater (Boulderbeater)
Reverse Swirling/Twisting Osis (Twirl)
Reverse Whirling/Whipping Swirl (Helix)
Sole Osis
Spinning Osis
Stepping Whirl
Symple Motion Rake
Symposium Butterfly/Down
Symposium Double Legover/Symposium Mixer (Nova)
Symposium Eggbeater
Symposium Whirl
Terraging Legover/Switch (Enterrage)
Torque
______[set from torque]
Torque, Reverse (Flux)
Triple ATW (TATW)
Triple Mirage (Triage)
Whirling Swirl


5-ADD:
Blurry Dyno (G.Y.B.A.S.)
Blurry Eggbeater (Bedwetter)
Blurry Double Legover/Blurry Mixer (Fog)
Blurry Ducking Butterfly/Stepping Ducking Far Down (Ripped Warrior)
Double Torque (Barroque)
Ducking Torque
Fairy/Shut Ripstein (Frankenstein)
Gyro Torque (Mobius)
Nuclear Drifter (69)
Nuclear Butterfly/Nuclear Far Down (Matador)
Paradon Swirl
Paradox Miraging Symposium Mirage (Voodoo)
Paradox Symposium Double Legover/Symposium Mixer (Pdx Nova)
Paradox Symposium Whirl (PS Whirl)
Paradox Torque
Paradox Whirling Swirl
Pixie Ducking Butterfly/Open Ducking Far Down (Phoenix)
Pixie/Open Merlin
Pixie/Open Paradon
Spinning Down Double Down (Scorpion's Tail)
Symposium Double Downs [general]
Symposium Flurry
Symposium Torque
Symposium Twirl (Swivel)


6-ADD:
Ducking Paradox Torque
Furious barfly/whirl (Nemesis/Genesis)
Spinning Paradox Blender (Spender)


8-ADD:
Triaging Trifly (Super Nemesis)

[sen]

Erik, I really like that idea and I think it could help alot of players.

What if we just had a thread for like each concept (eg. spinning, ducking, ect) so that questions and tips could just be put in those?

[Muffinman]

In addition to the moves you mean? That would be good!

[sen]

Ya, in addition to the moves.
Like have a thread for each different move and also one for just each different concept.

Also, I'd be willing to help out with this.

[Muffinman]

Still waiting or responses before I go ahead and do this... Going to add a poll.

[Jeremy]

As I said in the mod forum, I think it's a great idea.

I think it would be best to limit it to components rather than specific tricks. People can give tips for specific tricks with in the topic for the relevant component. This may mean that there would be some overlapping of tips I guess but I think generally the right tips would be in the right place - for example if you wanted help on blurry drifter presumably the tips would be under drifter rather than stepping since hitting the drifter after the stepping set is the hard part.

So any move ending with drifter would be covered in the drifter topic - smoke, blurry drifter, high plains drifter, vortex etc. - I don't think it would be neccessary to have tips for each trick because there would be too many topics that way.

[Troyson]

i think this is a great idea!
I think that you should separate it into 2 topics basically, uptime and downtime.

This way, only sets would be covered in one part (pixie, fairy,atomic, etc.), and downtime components such as legover, mirage, butterfly, drifter etc. would be in another part.

By doing this it would be alot more organized, and say someone was having a hard time with blurry drifter, they would look up stepping set if that was the problem, or drifter if that is the problem.

[Muffinman]

K, great feedback!
I agree that both of your ideas would be useful, and I guess they go hand-in-hand, as Troy's just expands on Jeremy's (unless I misinterpretted Jeremy's).

The problem I find with limiting it to JUST this is that it will just become a mess again as it is now -- you will look in the drifter section and find sooo many tips and maybe NOTHING on the specific move you wanted, and yet will have possible read PAGES AND PAGES to no avail.

I suggest that we impliment Troyson's idea IN ADDITION to threads for EVERY SINGLE MOVE. There are a lot of components so stickies may not work to separate from ALL MOVE THREADS, but there must be a way. Then there can be a master list so that it doesn't matter if all of the move threads fall into oblivion and cannot be found, because that is what the master list is for.


Do I make sense?
I think BOTH is great. The purpose I had in mind was to have every move as its own thread and this other idea would be an added bonus which will supply even more information and answer more specific (or less specific) questions.



EDIT: Or maybe we can sticky the "fundamental" downtime components, OR a sets list... I don't know. Too much sticky is bad. We could just have a master list for sets and downtime moves (which would also double as some individual move threads). Then we could add stuff as it comes up (like if someone wants a thread for symposium, or example. We could have a symposium thread, and add it to "concepts" under the master list.

It sounds complicated, but I guess I just want it to be perfect -- just imagine how great it would be to have a simple auto-maintained forum that operates just like an encyclopedia/how-to of tricks!!

[Anz]

People just need to learn to search, stickying 100 threads will not prevent newbies to post new ones.

Just edit the thread topics that have the best tips so far so that they can be found easily.

[Muffinman]

I'm not suggesting we have 100 stickies; I agree with you and suggested the opposite -- an easy way of diong the same thing without so many stickies (a master list!)

And with the READ BEFORE POSTING RULES, no newbies will post before looking for the trick in the master list. The search function on this forum is useless -- seriously; it doesn't work. And this is why I posted an announcement about this before just going ahead and doing it, because it will change the way the forum operates the the rules that govern posting within it. I need people to want this before I go and change the whole forum...

So anyone who is posting in this forum should speak up if they are against the idea, because with enough votes maybe it will change in a way that you don't like...

[Anz]

Making a big list with links sounds good.
That's why I've been making those trick tip videos in just one thread because I'm against posting new threads.

[shredzilla]

The search function on this forum is useless -- seriously; it doesn't work.

I totally agree. That's why it's annoying when people say 'Use the search feature!!' to noobs. It does work sometimes, but it's definitely not clutch, especially if you're a new member trying to find key information.

I'm still not sure how your concept will work, but I think it's an awesome idea having trick tips categorized alphabetically.

[sniikeri]

*I'm not sure if this was the original idea because I didn't read all the posts. *

How about one sticky topic with links (in alphabetical order) to the "trick help" topics? (Compare with the Move Nickname List.)

I agree that it's useless to have many topics for same tricks, Chan's idea is good.

[Muffinman]

Bump-bump. It looks like everyone who is viewing this topic likes the idea. Just to make sure, I will wait until another 5 votes (should be easy if enough people want it) before I start. If it works out I'd love to organize the health section too (waaay too many threads on knee problems.... I have no idea which to look at..) ...


EDIT: One more vote until 20 (the "5 more")

[Guest_2]

I think this is a great idea and agree there should be subforums for components

maybe symp and pdx should be grouped together

what do you do about spinning & ducking moves?

[Muffinman]

I have finally completed organization of this forum after, like, 6+ hours straight of work. I've noticed already as I've been working on it that people have continued posting in old threads. I have now changed every single thread in the forum, but I hope that these multiple messages will point you to the OFFICIAL RULES, which are now vital to the operation of this forum. Please read the rules and respect the work that went into this.


Official rules

[sniikeri]

Nice, Erik. Huge props.

[Zeb Jackson]

WOW 6+ hours man thats a huge accomplishment or a large waste of time, because people like to start new threads reather than pushing the "search button" but props anyway man!

[Troyson]

THIS IS PERFECT!!!
GREAT JOB, COULDNT BE ANY BETTER!

[Anz]

Awesome work Erik.

There's a lot of trick videos online, like the ones that Johnny made. Maybe you should add a video section on the list?